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Old 04-09-2012, 04:33 PM   #15
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Many thanks to all who have offered advice. We are going up to the AS dealer in Los Banos tomorrow to get their take on what they recommend and for a final look at the Flying Cloud vs. the International series. Once we decide on the AS, we can focus on doing more research on the TV. We liked the Tahoe, but will have to take another look at the Suburban and also the Avalanche as well as 'real' trucks.

We were at the Nissan dealer and there appears to be much vagueness about the Armada - whether it is going to be discontinued or redesigned - so that may not be a good option for us. We were very interested in the Ford Expedition, but the Ford dealer we went to was so uninterested in us we left! We will have to seek out another dealer and look again at the Expedition.

Again, thanks to all for comments. I'll report back when we make a decision.

Dolly

PS I should mention that we are planning on full-timing for about a year to explore the country - so we do need something that will be reliable and consistent and comfortable.
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:10 PM   #16
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Rumors about the Armada have been going on for some time. It has been claimed it is not a truck really made for towing medium sized and up trailers. Probably a good decision to stay away from this brand.

Check Consumer Reports ratings for "reliable and consistent and comfortable". Tundra is at the top for full sized trucks for the first two. I don't think the Tundra cloth seats are comfortable, but with sheepskin covers, they are fine. The Sequoia is the same basic vehicle, but with less payload. We had an '02 Sequoia and it was very comfortable.

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Old 04-10-2012, 12:31 PM   #17
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If I had the money I would buy the AS Avenue and pull a trailer for our scooters. Owned an Interstate---never again. jim
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:59 PM   #18
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Just to stir the pot a bit.

Mini and Airstream Argosy.swf - YouTube

This is a CanAm setup. I think I will stick with my Ram 1500.
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Old 04-10-2012, 04:23 PM   #19
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This is a CanAm setup.
Read Andrew T's "Hitch Hints" this month, it gives some insight into this Mini set up:

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Old 04-10-2012, 04:46 PM   #20
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This is a CanAm setup. I think I will stick with my Ram 1500.
Why stir the pot? Did you drive that set up, or any CanAm setup? No one is saying to tow a 28' trailer with a Mini.

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Old 04-10-2012, 04:53 PM   #21
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This is a CanAm setup. I think I will stick with my Ram 1500.
The Argy looks Huge!

Looks like the Mini's running for its life, "Something's gonna eat me!"
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:24 PM   #22
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I believe Can-Am set this up to demonstrate the capabilities of modern suspension, light weight, excellent braking, and low center of gravity when towing; deficits of truck-based tow vehicles.

Most will miss the point.

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Old 04-10-2012, 06:32 PM   #23
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Most will miss the point.

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Not me! :~)

Andy actually did this for a customer, a local business. I asked if he could take the set up to Alumapalooza but he said as he didn't own it, he couldn't. Still, it was an interesting exercise for him.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:07 PM   #24
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I believe Can-Am set this up to demonstrate the capabilities of modern suspension, light weight, excellent braking, and low center of gravity when towing; deficits of truck-based tow vehicles.

Most will miss the point.

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I was just amused. That is a little Argy. Few things would make it look so big.
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For a family on infrequent vacations there is a wide variety of vehicles. For a couple full-timing and not dependent on a fixed base property/building then a 1T pickup or van is the easy choice. "Easy" in that one is not ever constrained by carrying four seasons of supplies: hot, cold, seashore, snow skiing, whatever. It's more than just clothing. Might be hunting, fishing, biking equipment. Hobbies. Volunteer activities. A business. Etc.

Here's a couple who full-timed for 23-years with a Silver Streak:

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When we decided . . to go full timing [1979], we wanted a well-built trailer that [was] easy to tow with lots of storage for all of our gear. Since we sold our house, we knew that everything we wanted to take with us had to fit into the trailer and it did.

" . . Before [we bought] our Silver Streak, we measured and calculated the storage of other 32 foot trailers, this included Airstream, Avion, Holiday Rambler and several others. Silver Streak by far had the most storage of all, with over 250 cubic feet.

We enjoy a lot of hobbies, and so in the trailer we took with us two bags of golf clubs, two tennis rackets, skin diving equipment, hunting gear and all of our fishing tackle for fresh water as well as saltwater. We had winter clothes for snow skiing as well as for the summer."


One may not think that one would ever carry so much stuff. But for fulltiming better too much room or weight capacity than not enough until a pattern of use is established. And that will be a few years down the road.

One can fulltime in a 16'. But one may start with a new 27' and shortly thereafter trade for a recent 34'. Towing either isn't that different for operating expenses (fuel), but payload capacity can be another story.

It's easier to "oversize" the TV and to later dial in a better choice once the TT size is set in concrete.

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Didn't mean to upset anyone.

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Why stir the pot? Did you drive that set up, or any CanAm setup? No one is saying to tow a 28' trailer with a Mini.

Tom
I think of stirring the pot as important, just as if you were making a good soup, or mixing concrete it is important to stir so all the ingredients are mixed together. Someone had mentioned a Mini and I remembered that someone had actually towed with one. I did not make any comments that it was a wise choice nor an unwise choice. I simply stated that I was going to stick with my Ram 1500, as I do have a 29' trailer. As luck would have it also do not have a Mini.

I have never had any contact with the CanAm folks so would not begin to state an opinion on what they do. I am simply presenting that there are options out there and any individual who is looking for the perfect setup should read and search as many opinions as they can, balance that with as much factual knowledge they can acquire, then make the best decision for them and their circumstances.

I am grateful that there are differing opinions here on the forum. Now should we change the subject to tires or hitches?
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Apologies for the overreaction - I admit to being short on patience with CanAm critics, priming me to misinterpret the intent of your post.

Doug did mention a Mini - ironically as a toad rather than as a tow-er.

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Old 05-12-2012, 02:38 AM   #28
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We pull our 27' FB International with a 2010 5.7L Toyota Tundra CrewMax. We have traveled from Southern California to Washington State and through the High Sierra and Cascade Mountains. We average between 11-12.5 MPG. I love the way the truck tows our AS. I also use it as my daily driver, it gets okay MPG for a truck and it has plenty of room in the front and back seats. It has a smooth and comfortable ride both with and without the trailer (the 3/4 ton trucks I test drove were very stiff and had a very harsh ride). However, I do need to be careful not overload the truck bed since it is a 1/2 ton and not a 3/4 ton truck (although a salesman at Toyota claimed the Tundra was designed as a 3/4 ton but sold as a 1/2 ton truck for lower insurance rates..... what???). If we had purchased a longer/heavier Airstream, we would have gone with a 3/4 ton truck. A word of warning.... there are a LOT of strong opinions on this particular topic. The Tundra works great for us, but you will need to figure out what will work best for you.
Just out of curiosity, which break controller are you using?

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