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Old 07-08-2006, 05:38 AM   #57
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Hi Dan,
Sounds like you've gotten on with your project. Glad you found the Forums -- and welcome! I would suggest the search function to find useful threads but it'd take some hit and miss -- I'm not sure what search words would lead this in productive directions.

My Argosy black tank was unique in being above the floor, so we may be talking apples and oranges. The grey tank below the floor has a galvanized steel box that protects the foam insulation around a plastic grey tank. I dunno...

A member who has done a lot of work with rethinking tank installation is Smokeless Joe at this thread. Also see here. Read the threads and maybe PM him if you want to chaw on this further.... We'd welcome your posting further questions and your progress. Glad to have you aboard!


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Old 07-12-2006, 12:49 PM   #58
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Hi Folks, I'm considering a new Safari 19' as a first Airstream experience. The concerns I have are not to many; foremost if my 2003 GMC Envoy will do OK as my tow vehilce, finding proper storage facility,and Picking out a good generator. Have a bunch of friends with RV's fifth wheels etc. and the Airstream has become our first choice in our decision to join in the fun.

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Old 07-12-2006, 02:42 PM   #59
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The 16 and 19 Safaris are the lightest of the current Airstreams, if your Envoy is a V8 with a tow rating sufficient to handle the 19 Safaris loaded weight or GVW you should be OK. Your Envoy's manual will have the tow capacity listed as well as the combined weight maximum (GVCW) wwhich is the total of your envoy and trailer, both loaded including passengers, fuel, water, etc. Some would say that the Envoy wheel base may be too short, but that seems to be more of a debated issue.

The Airstream website has all of the weights listed for your review.

Many current owners prefer the Honda 2000 watt gens. You will need two with the parallel kit (hooks the two together) to run the AC. They are very light and very quiet. There have been many discussions on gens, so use the search function and read up.

As to storage, that is area dependent, so check with the locals.

good luck and have fun

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Old 07-18-2006, 12:20 PM   #60
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This is all new to me [joining,not camping].I have a 1969 25'Trade Wind that I am restoring.HELP I need a curbside wing window,glass,not the "new plastic ones they want to sell me.

So far this is the only part that has escaped my reach.Thanks for all your help!!

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Old 07-19-2006, 08:49 AM   #61
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Originally Posted by Janet
Hi and welcome to the Forums. This introduction Sub-forum is the place to introduce yourself to the rest of the community and try out your first post. Tell us about your trailer or if you've just begun to look for one, how long you've had it, etc - we want to know!

The Forum is divided into subsections, each with a different topic. If you have questions about a specific issue, say "how do i fix my furnace", please post those questions in the appropriate sub-forum.

To post an introduction, click on the "new thread button at the top of the posts list and have at it.

Welcome aboard.
I am a new member so please understand that
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:51 AM   #62
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:55 PM   #63
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This is my first post. I'm planning on purchasing a 25' 1981 excella this weekend, and am driving a good distance for it. I've recently read about the frame saging problem with late 70 airstreams with rear baths made during the Beatrice food era. The 81 I'm planning on buying has a rear bath. Does anyone know if this might be one of the lighter frame airstreams for which this problem occurs?
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:04 AM   #64
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Hi all! Glad to stumble upon this blog.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:47 PM   #65
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Greetings debbythesea!

Welcome to the Forums!

Tow Vehicle Selection -- my suggestion would be to obtain the GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) for the Bambi Quick Silver -- then look for a tow vehicle that has a trailer tow rating of 120% or more of that figure -- the extra 20% will allow reserve for passengers, surplus luggage, etc. There are a number of SUVs that would be capable of towing a Bambi Quick Silver -- I share a dislike of pickups and after two disasterous experiences with pickus, I splurged on a Suburban and have been a very happy camper for more than 163,000 miles (I need the heavier Suburban for towing my Overlander in the Rocky Mountains).

Solo Towing of Trailer -- there are numerous Airstreamers who travel solo -- in fact, there is an Intra-Club within the WBCCI (Wally Byam Caravan Club International) for those who travel solo known as the Free Wheelers. There are a number of hitch "helper" devices that significantly ease the process -- I utilize a large, convex mirror mounted on a metal pole with a large magnetic base; this device is so useful that several of my acquaintances who travel with a companion choose to use one of these mirrors rather than the more traditional live assistant. Backing the coach takes practice, and it is highly advisable to find a lrage, open parking lot to practice maneuvering your coach prior to the first camping excursion. The small, single axle coaches react more quickly to tow vehicle inputs than the larger tandem axle coaches meaning that it may take more practice to develop the smooth, easy motions necessary to back the single axle coach.

Good luck with your investigation!

Thank you Kevin! I took your advice & found a Toyota 4x4 v8 to tow the bambi...which I am proud 'mommy' to now!
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Old 07-27-2006, 05:04 PM   #66
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Dear Cindy, I am a needlepoint designer and have a design of a n airstream trailer in my line. It's a cute piece for a pillow or framed. Let me know if yur interested.
Pat Sanguinetti @ Napier Needlepoint
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A little about us and ours. We live in Utah and have 2 children left at home out of 6. My first grandchild is due tomorrow and we have reports of contractions.

We own a Sovergn and I am a little confused about the year because the title says an '83' but I couldn't find one when I registered so I just put '84'. We have had it for just a couple of months. We aquired it from my parents who just bought a brand spanking new airstream motor home and they have been traveling all over the country doing rallies. When our youngest moves away from home we may join my parents and the fun.

I love to embroider and would like to make some fun things with a picture of my airstream on them. I am a little lazy though and would like it if I could find where someone else has done the digitizing so I don't have to. So if any one knows where to find airstream embroidery designs I would really appreciate if you could share in the knowledge.

Our airstream has carpet in it and twin beds. Those are the first things we are going to change. We are installing wood floors and a queen bed so we can sleep together (I still like my husband even though he is almost a grandpa). With 6 kids and who knows how many grands will come, we feel the wood floor will be a great improvement for cleaning.

We have had a little problem with the electric trailer lift. It worked great when we got it but just quit one day. My husband is really great at fixing things so he checked it out and determined that probably the motor was bad. We ordered a new motor and it is still not working. If anyone has any suggestions we would love to hear about them also.

Thanks for reading and for the great site. I plan to visit often as become empty nesters I am sure this site will prove invaluable.

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Old 07-27-2006, 10:02 PM   #67
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hi i am coral from louisiana. i am pruchasing an old airstream and wish to refrubish it. any help is appreciated.
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Old 07-28-2006, 02:07 PM   #68
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Hi to everyone.


We bought a fifth wheel Airstream Excella V 1980 a month ago. We would like to have a copy of the manual. We do not know how to start the furnace. We live in L'Annonciation, Province of Quebec in Canada. If is our first fifth wheel. We think that it was painted, by the way they did a good job if it was the case. We are very happy with the fifth wheel but we wonder if it is an original. Did Airstream built fifth wheels? We cannot find anything on that. Thank you for the information.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:27 PM   #69
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"hi i am coral from louisiana. i am pruchasing an old airstream and wish to refrubish it. any help is appreciated"
Hey Coral, I'm just down the road in BR and am rehabing my old 69 Safari while also working on my dad's 84 31' Sovereign. Just holler.

Hi ya'll! I'm Molly from south Louisiana. I grew up in an Airstream and have many fond memories from International Rally's, caravans, Regionals, and local rallys. I think I was a lucky kid to have travelled thru out this great country of ours, and seen all the natural wonders in our National Parks and then on into Canada's. For 2 months every summer for more than 10 yrs, we hit the road. Five of us in a 19' Globetrotter-that's togetherness!

We had bunks over the couches-can you still get those or were they an after-market product? I'm actually looking for the hardware for them-my dad had the 2 bunks & cushions in the attic. Can any of ya'll give me any clues on this? I remember they were installed by the local Airstream dealer, but ... that was yeaaaaaars ago. Input would be appreciated.

I'd like to put them in one of the trailers so the grandkids can use them.

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