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Old 05-13-2015, 09:53 PM   #15
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Yyyyyyyeah. I'm thinking so
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:00 PM   #16
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How does your stuff in the trailer travel? Does stuff bounce around a lot or pretty steady?
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:12 PM   #17
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Stuff travels fine, and the bouncing around is no greater than we experienced in our B+ motor home.

However, Airstreams have significantly less storage than your typical motor home or SOB trailer. It doesn't bother us, as we've learned to travel lighter than before, but it's something to keep in mind.
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Stuff travels fine, and the bouncing around is no greater than we experienced in our B+ motor home.

However, Airstreams have significantly less storage than your typical motor home or SOB trailer. It doesn't bother us, as we've learned to travel lighter than before, but it's something to keep in mind.
Amazingly enough, in our 40' DP, we had a LOT of empty space, like an entire basement doors side to side empty. A lot of empty closet space, and 80% of what we did pack on board, we never touched.

This is part of our thinking in downsizing. Why pay for, put tires on, drive and maneuver something 40' long and 13 feet tall, when we honestly don't need that much space.

Also in my 40', I never, not once, ok maybe once but never again... ever sat down at the dinette.... I also never sat on "the other couch". I never turned the front seats around either except for one time when I actually had guests. I learned that I lived in one spot on the couch, wore three t shirts, used the same 2 pairs of shorts over and over, and 4 pairs of socks was overkill

We used the same two plates, the same two glasses, the same two wine glasses as we washed right away and put away.

We actually cook a LOT, like almost every night cause my wife's food is better than any restaurant. But a short list of handy pans will do the trick.

This is why we started out looking at something way way smaller. But here's the big deal for me.

I walked into a forest river Sunseeker on a mercedes chassis - and it was like a dungeon. Dark, very dark. Limited windows, even with the cheapy sunroof. The driving and passenger seats were "not that great". The dinette was "not that great and then some" It was very tiny feeling, and ya know... so so to cheap stuff inside.

But, something about the airstream... it was light, and airy, and windows all over the place... I was thinking OH BOY, this is what I'm talking about. My crewcab 2500hd pickup truck adds just as much storage space as my basement storage in my old bus. "This could work!" I thought.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:27 AM   #19
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Be advised that even with a 25 Airstream, the trailer is 26' + tow vehicle 20' or more you will have a combined length of at least 46'.

Were you towing a small car with the motorhome?

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Yes, it could.

We're very happy with our Airstream. We had exactly the same experience wrt the open, light, airy feel in Rocinante vs. other brands of RV's.
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Be advised that even with a 25 Airstream, the trailer is 26' + tow vehicle 20' or more you will have a combined length of at least 46'.

Were you towing a small car with the motorhome?

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Oh yeah. I think maybe you all are misunderstanding me.

As far as length goes, the Bus plus car and tow hitch was 65 feet combined. But there's more to the story. Not only are you 65 feet, which was never really the problem, you're also 13 feet tall and 9 feet wide. You're also at over 24,000 lbs. It's like driving a city bus with worse suspension. Also, you can't back up. Twice I got "stuck" turning down a road with no outlet or low clearance, and sometimes if you were at an angle either right to left, or rear end up or down, it was almost impossible to get that car off cause it was bound up.

So let's remember, I started out looking at 25 to 28 foot Class C motohorhomes. In a 25 footer, I couldn't tow my current car, I'd have to trade for a smart car or something. A 28 footer on a ford chassis (ugly front end) I could tow my current car. But even then, I'm still RV + Car at 28 + 16 feet + hitch.

Driving the bus combo literally FEELS huge. The thing rolls, and rocks, and you gotta ease it into places, and god forbid a tire blow on you at speed.

With a 25 airstream, this combo is more like pulling my boat. Matter of fact it would defeat the length of my boat plus truck by 1 foot and some change... and that's never ever felt like a big monstrous thing to me.
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I understand now. You mentioned 40' on your motorhome so I was assuming 40' was a future purchase you wanted to keep under in length.

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Well, in truth, my thought is the smaller the better, but there is a point where too small is too small. The 25 seems to be that perfect middle ground between livability and size.

I wish 2014's had ducted air, cause I'm finding some really good prices on some 2014's.
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I went to look at 2015 25RB at a local dealer to me about a month ago. The unit was sold but the salesman let me look inside. He volunteered the selling price, $63k ($77k MSRP). A 2015 with ducted air is a big improvement over a 2014.

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Well, in truth, my thought is the smaller the better, but there is a point where too small is too small. The 25 seems to be that perfect middle ground between livability and size.

I wish 2014's had ducted air, cause I'm finding some really good prices on some 2014's.
We have a Flying Cloud 25' FB, and I like it. It is the perfect compromise, but if I were to do it again, I think it would be the 27'. Just to get a north south orientation on the bed. I also think I can get a 27' into any of the places we've taken the current trailer.

With respect to the 2014, how much is that ducted air worth? You might be better off with a second AC if your travels are mostly in the south.
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I went to look at 2015 25RB at a local dealer to me about a month ago. The unit was sold but the salesman let me look inside. He volunteered the selling price, $63k ($77k MSRP). A 2015 with ducted air is a big improvement over a 2014.

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So then why does my local dealer say the MSRP is 83k .........

I figured it might have been the second A/C, but can't confirm it's even installed. I would LOVE to be in the 63k range on purchase!!!!!!!!!!! That's a huge difference.
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Does anyone know the "price" of "a second a/c"? Like the airstream website never even mentions it's an option, much less an MSRP for the addition.

Also, what is the "comfort package" my dealer has listed on their website? I don't trust this place with numbers based on previous experience with them.
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I stand corrected, they have the MSRP at 85,947!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They would also be my only service center within 200 miles of me.
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