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Old 11-06-2012, 08:02 PM   #15
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Winter is a great time to buy. Check eBay Woodland Travel Center in MI just listed an 2011 Safari 20 footer. This is a great trailer. (I own one.) Woodland are great people to work with. The 2011 still has warranty on it if theres a problem.

As far as gray tank goes, you can use a blue boy portable tank for extra gray and black water. You can also put an extra fresh tank in your truck bed and transfer it to your trailer fresh water tank.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:20 PM   #16
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Hi there. We live in Longmont and bought a used 2008 23FB 3 years ago. We also have a 2008 Toyota Tundra tow vehicle. If you want someone local to talk with about what we've learned through our experience with the AS, I'd be happy to talk with you. Just send me a private message.

Some more input:
Warranty: If you are buying used, see if you can stick with years that have some factory warranty left. Ours had 2 years warranty left and we did fine a few minor things that we had fixed under warranty.

Size: this is a very personal thing but given that you will have 2 dogs, bikes, plus 2 people, I suspect the 19 might be a bit tight. We find our 23 a bit snug once we have 3 people using it. I also like having the double axle on the 23 - gives me some peace of mind in case of flat.

Mechanical aptitude: I've learned that owning an airstream requires some mechanical capability if you don't want to spend money to pay others inflated prices to fix your trailer. Decide whether this is the sort of thing you like to do or if you can afford to pay someone else to do it.

We have enjoyed our AS and have taken it many places in the Rockies. The Tundra tows it very well over the passes. My S.O. Is a road cyclist so we take it with us on the Tour de Colorado each year and I use it to camp when I go fly fishing. I am not sure,it saves us much money over hotels but it is fun!

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:07 AM   #17
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A few more things I forgot to mention:

Generators: if you plan on"boon docking"a lot (camping in places that don't have electric or city water hookups), then budget to get a generator that will handle the AC in your new AS. we ended up buying 2 Honda 2000 units since they were lighter weight so I could lift them and we daisy chain them together to get 5k power. We love our gennies. Let's us camp at pretty more remote spots.

insurance/storage: remember to include these in your budget. We pay about $125 per month for covered storage on our AS.

We bought ours at Colonial Airstream in New Jersey and had it delivered. They have a very large inventory.

We love the size and amenities of our 23FB SE. It has a full size queen bed and the outside shower. When my S.O. does the Tour de Colorado, we have 2 bikes and 3 people. The bikes go in the trailer for towing and get chained to the front hitch frame when we are hanging at the trailer.

We also love having the full bath at the end of the trailer.

Sometimes we think about upgrading to a 25 so we could have even more sleeping space but we think the 23 FB is a nice size for two people and an occasional guest.

Good luck!
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:46 AM   #18
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Welcome and suggest that you look at the late model 20 foot ... a little longer than the 19 and - as we've been told - more liveable ... ymmv
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:18 AM   #19
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We purchased our 22' SS new 5 years ago. We started out looking for something in the 17-19' range that was light and had a single axle. After looking at the smaller models, my DW saw the 22' and we had to have it. We liked the huge dry bath and the clean retro interior. No Gramma's cabinets here, more like IKEA. This model had just been introduced and was based on european standards. It's less wide and weighs less than the similar models which saves gas. The mouse fur serves as a sound and temperature insulation and we like it a lot. DW likes to bake and the Micro-convection oven really works as well as our convection oven at home. We leave the dinette set up as a Queen size bed and our two dogs have plenty of room. You might want to look for a used one of these and check it out.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:38 AM   #20
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Good morning,

I understand that you might be looking for a 23' now, but thought I would send over a link for a Bambi that was listed in the Salt Lake area recently.

I understand that you may be considering the 23' now, but thought I would forward this ad over. It was recently posted in a local classified ad.

Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com

I haven't seen it, but it fits the description you listed in your first post.

Best of luck,
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:35 PM   #21
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Look at the 25 FB Eddie Bauer or the 27 FB Eddie Bauer -

I've been tempted by the 30 foot Serenity with 2 recliners, but have decided that my "if I win the lottery Airstream" would be the 27' Eddie Bauer. For storing bicycles and dirty dawgs - you'll love it. Colonial has one in stock I think.

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Old 11-16-2012, 10:25 AM   #22
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Look at the 25 FB Eddie Bauer or the 27 FB Eddie Bauer -

I've been tempted by the 30 foot Serenity with 2 recliners, but have decided that my "if I win the lottery Airstream" would be the 27' Eddie Bauer. For storing bicycles and dirty dawgs - you'll love it. Colonial has one in stock I think.

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We like the EB, too; but there are budgetary constraints and we have seen very few used EB listed for sale. Specs show -at least to us - that jumping to the 25EB makes the most sense over what we happily have right now. But we share its ownership with the bank.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:31 AM   #23
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Floor plan and size are the difference between enjoying and dreading.

We started with a 19 and traded it in a month later on a 25 front bedroom. Learn from our mistake and do the following.

Both of you lay on the bed together. Do you have enough room to be comfortable? A bad nights sleep is a no go.

Do both of you fit comfortably in the throne room with the room you need to do what you need to do?

Are you and the hounds able to move around? Sometimes it's cold or it rains and then all four of you are stuck inside.

There is really no difference in towing between a 19,23 or 25 except for lane changes.

And finally. Go to Airstream rally's. There is usually a trailer tour and even if there is not. Airstreamers will let you see their trailers and answer your questions.

The goal is to buy once and be happy.

Have fun and good luck.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:34 AM   #24
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Well, after another couple weeks of research and reading your wonderful posts we really have come full circle on the size!

My husband and I will not only be traveling and riding our bikes regularly, but we realized that one of the things we really "need" is a good place to hang out. We often do long, tiring rides and spend the couple of hours between lunch and dinner relaxing. SOOOO - it's clear that we actually need to place a big priority on the living space of our trailer.

It looks like we're now all over the 25' (might consider the 23' if everything was right). Amazingly, I just found one for sale about 3 hours from our house that has the floor plan and most of the finishes we want. Plus it's within budget!

Assuming the seller gets back to me and says he still has it...does anyone have recommendations on how to find an inspector for a reasonable price? Any other private seller/buyer tips? I've heard we should get the VIN number and have it checked out before we buy. Thoughts?

I'm getting less scared of the length of the trailer towing-wise...sounds like you all think 19-25' isn't really that different in this respect. Think we'll have any regrets when accessing tight campgrounds or trying to boondock off the beaten path a bit (I see both scenarios likely)?

Another interesting point someone made to me was - "you've never towed anything before anyway and since you have nothing to compare it to, you won't notice any extra trouble with the longer one." Interesting...
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Well, after another couple weeks of research and reading your wonderful posts we really have come full circle on the size!

My husband and I will not only be traveling and riding our bikes regularly, but we realized that one of the things we really "need" is a good place to hang out. We often do long, tiring rides and spend the couple of hours between lunch and dinner relaxing. SOOOO - it's clear that we actually need to place a big priority on the living space of our trailer.

It looks like we're now all over the 25' (might consider the 23' if everything was right). Amazingly, I just found one for sale about 3 hours from our house that has the floor plan and most of the finishes we want. Plus it's within budget!

Assuming the seller gets back to me and says he still has it...does anyone have recommendations on how to find an inspector for a reasonable price? Any other private seller/buyer tips? I've heard we should get the VIN number and have it checked out before we buy. Thoughts?

I'm getting less scared of the length of the trailer towing-wise...sounds like you all think 19-25' isn't really that different in this respect. Think we'll have any regrets when accessing tight campgrounds or trying to boondock off the beaten path a bit (I see both scenarios likely)?

Another interesting point someone made to me was - "you've never towed anything before anyway and since you have nothing to compare it to, you won't notice any extra trouble with the longer one." Interesting...
Here is a picture of the volunteer inspector list for Colorado, it's midway down on the portal page. I used it when we bought our 06 Bambi over 1200 miles away and had a great forum member help me out! I googled my Vin and saw how many owners there were and dates it was put into service so it's easy to do.

Good luck!
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:55 AM   #26
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Managing the Gray Tank

Please don't send the PC police out to find me, but this is what I use on occasion. When boondocking out in the wild, I empty the gray tank into the nearest bush, tree, shrub using this cap and a long enough black hose.

I fly fish and am often out in the woods away from others.


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Good luck with your search. I have a Tundra and pull my 25FB without problems. I also carry two bikes in the back along with a generator and some wood for fires.
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Please don't send the PC police out to find me, but this is what I use on occasion. When boondocking out in the wild, I empty the gray tank into the nearest bush, tree, shrub using this cap and a long enough black hose.

I fly fish and am often out in the woods away from others.

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Good luck with your search. I have a Tundra and pull my 25FB without problems. I also carry two bikes in the back along with a generator and some wood for fires.
I've used this device sparingly, as you have, but the first time my wife saw me use it, killing Bambi would have been more humane, to hear what I went through.

Like a VERY understanding person (who's been married to the same lady for over 47 years), I replied with, "Dear, are you ever concerned when you wash your car in the driveway and use detergent, in the process"?

Now I haven't used this device since our little misunderstanding, but I don't think the situation won't be quite as tense the next time I do.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:11 PM   #28
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If you have never been RVing, why not rent something and get an idea of what works for you size wise. You might also get a copy of The Newbies Guide to Airstreaming. When we were buying, the most important thing for my Wife was to have a walk around bed. Funny how something that seems so trivial is really a big deal. We love our 27' FB by the way. Good luck.
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