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Old 05-18-2014, 08:12 PM   #1
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Sale value of a 1979 Airstream badged Argosy 24' MoHo

I wish I was going to be a long term member of this esteemed group, but we (my wife and I) are trying to help her father sell his 1979 Airstream badged Argosy 24, perhaps we can help someone else join the club. We have been finding lots of helpful information on your site, but unfortunately there is no room for it financially or physically to remain in our possession. V.I.N. M24R9V2006 runs just followed it from Renton Washington to Portland Oregon, approximately 150 miles at 70 mph, the only problem was a alternator belt, had a spare, fixed it and drove on. Our first dilemma is what the value is, While I know it is quite subjective by individual, and vehicle condition, buyer and seller motivations etc, My main question is where to start. ask too much no one wants it, ask too little; less money for the father in law.
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I wish I was going to be a long term member of this esteemed group, but we (my wife and I) are trying to help her father sell his 1979 Airstream badged Argosy 24, perhaps we can help someone else join the club. We have been finding lots of helpful information on your site, but unfortunately there is no room for it financially or physically to remain in our possession. V.I.N. M24R9V2006 runs just followed it from Renton Washington to Portland Oregon, approximately 150 miles at 70 mph, the only problem was a alternator belt, had a spare, fixed it and drove on. Our first dilemma is what the value is, While I know it is quite subjective by individual, and vehicle condition, buyer and seller motivations etc, My main question is where to start. ask too much no one wants it, ask too little; less money for the father in law.
Motorhome selling prices depend on what shape the coach is in, and the mileage.

Have all the repairs and PM's been kept up to date?

Tires, gaskets, overhauled appliances, etc.

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Old 05-18-2014, 09:16 PM   #3
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:25 PM   #4
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:39 PM   #5
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1979 24í painted Airstream Argosy motor home, we were hoping to ask $8000 obo, as is, but we're looking for more expert advice on price. Helping my dad with paring down after a move. Does NOT have current tags or trip permit as it is still licensed in Washington. Good, fairly new 16.5 tires, approx 3 years and 500 miles on them, including spare. Interior has been thoroughly wiped down including the interiors of all storage spaces. All carpeting and chairs have been vacuumed. Curtains have not been cleaned. Kitchen range, surface and oven, have not been used recently but were operational when my dad bought this RV. Working Onan 4000 watt generator with less than 900 hours.
While we have found that this model is considered very desirable among Airstream enthusiasts, this is a 35 year old vehicle and itís not going to be perfect. The following are issues we were told about or noticed while cleaning it up to sell.
Needs -
Bathroom sink
Both couches/beds one frame included
Hot water tank has pin hole leak on bottom.
Water supply line under refrigerator seeps but has a switch on the pump that shuts it off when not in use.
Refrigerator not working, needs igniter installed, we do have the part for that repair, and I would recommend replacing the door gaskets also.
Heater works but thermostat needs replacement.
Window seals are old and could stand to be replaced.
Carpeting appears to be original. A portion is missing and it IS 70ís colors but what is there is not too badly worn.
Windshield has minor crack on driver side and fairly large cracks on passenger side that look as though they were glued previously. Not sure if itís repairable or better off replacing the passenger side.
Awning should be complete but appears to have broken brackets at the bottom. And seem to be the cause of the only puncture in the skin that I have seen.
The AC needs recharging.
This list is as complete as possible. If we missed anything, again, 35 yr old RV.

Itís got a good amount of nostalgic charm and if we could afford to keep it in the family it would be a fun project. We have manuals and previous repair documentation also.
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:46 PM   #6
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1979 24í painted Airstream Argosy motor home, we were hoping to ask $8000 obo, as is, but we're looking for more expert advice on price. Helping my dad with paring down after a move. Does NOT have current tags or trip permit as it is still licensed in Washington. Good, fairly new 16.5 tires, approx 3 years and 500 miles on them, including spare. Interior has been thoroughly wiped down including the interiors of all storage spaces. All carpeting and chairs have been vacuumed. Curtains have not been cleaned. Kitchen range, surface and oven, have not been used recently but were operational when my dad bought this RV. Working Onan 4000 watt generator with less than 900 hours.
While we have found that this model is considered very desirable among Airstream enthusiasts, this is a 35 year old vehicle and itís not going to be perfect. The following are issues we were told about or noticed while cleaning it up to sell.
Needs -
Bathroom sink
Both couches/beds one frame included
Hot water tank has pin hole leak on bottom.
Water supply line under refrigerator seeps but has a switch on the pump that shuts it off when not in use.
Refrigerator not working, needs igniter installed, we do have the part for that repair, and I would recommend replacing the door gaskets also.
Heater works but thermostat needs replacement.
Window seals are old and could stand to be replaced.
Carpeting appears to be original. A portion is missing and it IS 70ís colors but what is there is not too badly worn.
Windshield has minor crack on driver side and fairly large cracks on passenger side that look as though they were glued previously. Not sure if itís repairable or better off replacing the passenger side.
Awning should be complete but appears to have broken brackets at the bottom. And seem to be the cause of the only puncture in the skin that I have seen.
The AC needs recharging.
This list is as complete as possible. If we missed anything, again, 35 yr old RV.

Itís got a good amount of nostalgic charm and if we could afford to keep it in the family it would be a fun project. We have manuals and previous repair documentation also.
Mileage?

Andy
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:55 PM   #7
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more pictures

More pics of interior, I am not trying to swamp the site with pictures, but I'm of the opinion that the more pics, the better an evaluation I can get. We're not greedy, and we have no illusions about top dollar,we just want to find a good price to sell it for, so every one gets a fair deal, and it gets a new home soon.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:06 PM   #8
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cabinets

Pictures of the cabinets, I suppose this is enough for now until I get some sort of response from other members. I look forward to hearing from you all, about the good, the bad and the ugly. Let me have it! I won't take it personally.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:38 PM   #9
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It would be quite a project to bring that one back to life. BTW, I had a '78 Argosy 24' motorhome for about 6 years, so I am familiar with that exact unit. I would not consider it especially "desirable", just an old classic Argosy motorhome. I see so many things which need replacing or even locating (bathroom sink, beds, etc) and refrigerator, AC, water heater and on and on. Windshields alone are about $600 a side. Just fixing the wipers alone is a real project, I know, I had to do mine, and I note the passenger side on yours is not parked right.

It probably needs $6000 or more for parts alone, considering what will be found when actually doing the work on it. Ultimate value would not top 10 to 12 k in good condition, I don't believe. So, my best guess (and you asked for opinions) would be that the proposed asking price is too high. I doubt you would get $5 to $6 k as I see it now. If it were mine, knowing the costs involved, I would be happy to get $4 k for it as is.

There was a similar one in Hungry Horse Montana last summer near Glacier Park. It sat for at least two months and I think they wanted under $3 k for it.

You asked for opinions and that is my best shot. But it only takes one person with stars in their eyes as a buyer. Unfortunately, they generally not only have stars in their eyes, but have no money to begin with.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:41 PM   #10
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Just in case I didn't state it or it's not apparent; originally this was a rear bath dual (twin?) bed model, with a bed/couch across from the kitchen area, the front pull out table is still in good shape but no beds, but one of the frames with the roll-up cabinet front are left intact. Plenty of room to customize.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:26 PM   #11
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I had cut and pasted some of my wife's notes into the post, I meant to edit the very desirable bit from the original post but missed the time limit,. I understand that they are somewhat desirable compared to other rvs of the era, shape , and the ability to shine all but the endcaps are all bonuses, availability of chevy autoparts helps, but I have no grand illusions, it's not mine, I'm not too personally invested. I am not sure why you think the water heater needs replacing? is a pin hole leak so hard to patch?, or the ac (as far as I know it just needs recharging) the fridge needs an igniter installed, the wipers seemed to work on the trip from Renton,( it was pouring). We have a binder of repair material that we have not gone through yet, that might address possible issues, and will add info as we find it.
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The pin hole leak in the aluminum hot water tank means the tank is shot and there is no repair. It also shows no insulation or cover over it. The AC units are almost impossible to get anyone to repair. They started out as a sealed unit, and have no service valves or inputs to charge. The cost of repair generally exceeds the cost of a new one. If you have not actually tested the refrigerator in any way, it could easily need far more than an "ignitor" but one does not know. Glad the wipers worked, I only went from my experience that they are quite difficult to repair and one of the photos shows the passenger wiper parked in the wrong place.

You asked for opinions and presented good photos showing a unit which needs a lot of things to bring it back to working service and they can be very expensive. The things we don't really know about are also in my mind, brakes, actual transmission and engine condition, engine AC, and so on. Even though your tires may be OK for now, the 16.5 inch size is actually quite hard to get anymore and that usually means new wheels are in the future too.

I am not running your unit down, just looking at the reality and cost of repairs and renovations which will greatly determine the value of the base unit to anyone who would like to own it.

I always say the value of a rig is what a willing buyer will pay and what a willing seller will take. There is no real way that anyone can determine who will come along.
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My father in law owned this for a few years, and lived in it for a while while doing construction, then he left it with us to sell with minimal information, we're learning as we go. The Ac issue is good to know, I'll have to ask him about recent repairs, and about the fridge, as for the hot water tank: American Welding Inc, from Toledo Ohio claim; We will repair the tank, leak test it and guarantee it does not leak for $50.00 plus shipping,....ship it to us. If we cannot fix it we will return it to you and we will pay the shipping both ways. You cannot lose!!, sounds like a good deal, I'll have to look into their reputation, Aluminum Hot Water Heater Tank Repair , it is a far cry from the cost you implied, and the lack of a fix you stated as fact. I don't know how you would suggest it should be insulated but in lieu of the hexagonal Styrofoam box I have seen in pictures, I don't imagine it would be too difficult to box in with cardboard and sprayfoam insulate the tank. Tires? having a nearly new set of 7, 16.5 tires does not hurt the sale on my end at all, they should last the N.O. for a while and if the new owner wants to replace the rims and tires with 16's, more power to them. I searched for the 9.75-16.5 and had none of your reported problems finding them, and I find used 16 inch rims for my 1988 short school bus for $30-35 each, locally. As disabled GW-I Veteran with a family, I have no expendable income to throw at tuning up, remodeling, repainting, rebuilding this rig beyond what has been put out for cleaning supplies. I 'm not an expert on these, but I'm not a rube either, I don't know you, and I'm not sure if you knew they can be fixed or not ,( it being this late on a sunday night I'll give you the benefit of the doubt), but it took me 5 min to find applicable repairs for an item you stated with experience and authority was irreparable.... You looking to replace your old 24 footer?
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As far as I can tell only 102,357 miles (2357 showing) our records are less complete than I had hoped, they only go back to 1997. I'll try and get some pictures of the engine later.
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