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Old 01-27-2015, 02:05 AM   #29
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Congratulations! The AS redo will be a saving grace for your sanity... and you are not far away if needed...unless looking for parts...
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:24 AM   #30
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Congratulations! The AS redo will be a saving grace for your sanity... and you are not far away if needed...unless looking for parts...

Exactly! My wife admits I'm happier with a project.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:01 PM   #31
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Exactly! My wife admits I'm happier with a project.
You are doing good! AS a harley rider and now AS ... I think I gained weight!! hahaha

Also, yes.. it is better that my my 'project' is NOT my bride... at least according to her..=)
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:03 PM   #32
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I'm making progress. I've found some corrosion on the cross member beneath the shower and most of the rear C channel is corroded through too . Click image for larger version

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Old 02-05-2015, 07:40 PM   #33
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I've continued forward with the demo. I had a model specific thread going under the 1960 Safari link, but it petered out.

I've gutted the trailer.
Removed the bottom interior lining.
Dropped the belly pan.

Now preparing to lift the shell off.
I've located the floor bolts and removed a few. I'm still surprised at how solidly attached the body stills feels.

Can anyone estimate the weight of the shell on the 22' safari? How many hands am I going to need to complete this?

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Old 02-05-2015, 08:09 PM   #34
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I'll guess 600 pounds. Window glass, wiring, insulation, half of the interior skins, what else? How about 6 people and 12 beers.

You will need to support the shell before lift off since you'll be picking it up from the lower half. I understand this is less necessary if you lift from the roof.

I've seen some folks use 4x4s and jacks. Saves beer.

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Old 02-06-2015, 07:48 AM   #35
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I'll guess 600 pounds. Window glass, wiring, insulation, half of the interior skins, what else? How about 6 people and 12 beers.



You will need to support the shell before lift off since you'll be picking it up from the lower half. I understand this is less necessary if you lift from the roof.



I've seen some folks use 4x4s and jacks. Saves beer.



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Thanks!
Do you think I could use 2x4s longitudinally flat against the ceiling then use a posts straight up and down from there?
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I have yet to lift a shell from the subfloor, so I don't know. You will have to research some of the other threads.

I recall folks saying if you lift from the roof vent holes with a gantry and hoist and longitudinal supports the shell is stable enough to hold shape. But if you lift the shell from the bottom the side walls may buckle. I have seen pictures where folks tie support lumber from side to side at the formers and then x bracing to keep the walls from collapsing in on themselves.

Maybe it's a little like lifting an upside down paper grocery bag. You can lift it from the top okay. But lifting it from the sides causes the walls to buckle.

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I have yet to lift a shell from the subfloor, so I don't know. You will have to research some of the other threads.



I recall folks saying if you lift from the roof vent holes with a gantry and hoist and longitudinal supports the shell is stable enough to hold shape. But if you lift the shell from the bottom the side walls may buckle. I have seen pictures where folks tie support lumber from side to side at the formers and then x bracing to keep the walls from collapsing in on themselves.



Maybe it's a little like lifting an upside down paper grocery bag. You can lift it from the top okay. But lifting it from the sides causes the walls to buckle.



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Good analogy. Thanks.
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Old 02-07-2015, 02:29 PM   #38
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Successfully removed the shell this morning. Also removed the floor and found the perimeter all but disintegrated when we removed it. I'm wondering how I can recreate the curve now.
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Wow, you are really going at it and making good progress! I can't tell, but I hope your frame isn't too rusted. It won't be long before you reach that significant milestone from teardown to rebuild. Rebuilding takes a lot longer!

You're going to have to research how to recreate the corner curves on your new subfloor. Some folks make a template using the C-channel before the shell is lifted. Airstream builds the subfloor before they put the shell on, so they must have a drawing specifying the curves. I saw this while on the factory tour a couple of years ago. I used my belt sander plenty when I was fitting the new rear sub floor on my 66. You do have a little latitude as the shell attaches firmly to the C channel, and the C channel attaches firmly to the floor AND frame. The sub floor is sandwiched in between but the shell does not attach to the sub floor. Maybe this picture explains what I mean. You can see how i slipped the sub floor under the C channel but the floor does not precisely match the C channel perimeter.

How much beer did lifting the shell off cost you?

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The frame needs some work, especially the back, where the bath was....I hoping the rest will clean up, or we can beef it up.

I was able to salvage a portion of both front corners, but nothing of the rear section. I'll try and trace the shell tomorrow hopefully.

I paid my friends with beer and pizza and my word that they could call on me next time they need a barn raised.
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My frame wasn't too bad and did clean up well enough. Sand blasting is the best way to go, but I wire brushed mine which was hard work laying on my back. I did not take the shell off. I did not have any welding frame repairs to do. I did have to replace a couple of sections of that thin metal strapping they used for belly pan supports.

Maybe you have a local shop that does sand blasting.

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