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Old 01-20-2006, 06:35 PM   #15
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Greetings jamesardis!

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thanx to everyone for the warm welcome!-Can anyone tell me the history of the big red number on the trailer[its 11619]--also, concerning the last pic of a cigarette plug? located in the cupboard above the bed-what in tarnation is it for?--and why is there what appears to be flag holders[three] on the top of the trailer
The big red numbers are a previous owner's WBCCI (Wally Byam Caravan Club International) membership number. These numbers are assigned to the member and not the coach. Each year, the WBCCI publishes a membership directory with members identified by number -- it can be fun to check these numbers when an Airstream is spotted while traveling.

There were typically two or three convenience receptacles (12-volt cigarette lighter type outlets) found in most Airstreams (may have been optional in Land Yachts while they were often standard in Internationals). One outlet was usually provided for the gentleman's 12-volt electric shaver, a second for the 12-volt television (typically near the antenna outlet), and often a third in the kitchen area for 12-volt kitchen appliances (my '64 Overlander International has one in each of these locations).

Flag holders are part of membership in WBCCI. Most members of the WBCCI fly their state, unit and national flags when attending functions. Many of us will display our flags when traveling as well -- if I am staying more than one night in a particular location, I usually display my flags.

Good luck with your coach!

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Old 01-20-2006, 07:20 PM   #16
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Hi Jim,

That really is a nice looking rig. I also have a 71 Safari. That cigarette lighter type plug in the top of the closet can be used as a recharger for a cell phone of other applicance. Ours came with a nightlight that went in there. If we are in a really dark area we leave the closet open to find our way to the bathroom.

We replaced our heater because it was pretty rusted. The new one is much nicer, it has automatic ignition controlled by the thermostat. If the pressure in the propane line is too low it will shut off automatically. It's nice to have one less appliance to light.

Lots of luck.

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Old 01-20-2006, 09:27 PM   #17
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The skylights are called vista view windows and they can cause many problems with leaks and peeling between the glass. It was a common feature, but no big deal.
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Old 01-21-2006, 04:46 AM   #18
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There is nothing wrong with sitting in the Airstream in the driveway,and just looking,,,,,,,,
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Old 01-21-2006, 07:20 AM   #19
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My 78 Argosy has about 4 of those 12V outlets. I first thought "why would anyone need 4 cigarette lighters" then realized what they must really be. Guess I'm showing my age since I remember cigarette lighters in cars. You have a really nice looking trailer, escept it's not that lovely cream color I love; however, it should give you lots of fun. Welcome to the forum, we have lots of fun here too.
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Old 01-21-2006, 07:48 AM   #20
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Jim,
I would not call it an econo model, but it does not have the International upgrage package on it. Which IMHO is pretty rare (not having it is rare). IIRC the International package added a few items like blue stripes, water filter and about $500 to the price tag Vista Views are nice but can be a major pain. I have had to replace one of mine and it still leaks...from the factory I would figure on replacing the furnace, if memory serves me it was the NT20/22's that were on the recall and from 1971-1975? It does not devalue the unit at all to have a newer furnace installed, I have a 1975 Sovereign (31') and I was happy to see that a new furnace had been installed by a PO...now if they had just taken care of the nasty carpet and sagging rear...

That is a very nice looking unit you ended up with.

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Old 01-21-2006, 08:03 AM   #21
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Jim,
The 12V receptacle (cigarette lighter) is a handy option. I have actually added a few to our MH in more convenient locations. You can get appliances that run off of 12V. My favorite is our crock pot. I can start a meal in the morning when we leave and let it cook all day while we travel. When we arrive at a camp park the food is cooked and ready to serve. Of course in our motor home we have the benefit of smelling the cooking during the day but you can always slip back during rest stops.
We will meet you in Madison at the art fair just let us know when you are coming in. By the way yhere is no such thing as an "econo box" Airstream as you will soon find out.
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Well concerning the furnace-I will take it out and see if the combustion chamber is in good shape or not-then replace the cross-over tube[with what Im not sure yet]--since Ive gotten such a good deal on this unit I am not sure I want to ruin it by spending so much on a new furnace-a catalytic[portable]propane fired may be the ticket,considering how little one uses the heater anyways-------am still in the dark as to where I could possibly find the service manual for this 71 safari--just ordered some sealant from vintage airstream--so that I can button her up tight!----------thought about draping some plastic tarp over it-but am afraid that it may somehow mark the aluminum--I need to get this baby under something for the winter--------thanx all for your advice and help----ciao--jim from mich
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Jim,
Before you get too sold on the idea of a catalytic (BTW I love mine) and ditch the furnace, the furnace on Airstreams also provides heat to the holding tanks, a major necessity if you camp in freezing weather. And IMHO will affect resale value. I know I would NOT buy an AS without a proper furnace in it, without taking the deduction for a replacement unit.

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Old 01-21-2006, 06:40 PM   #24
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Greetings Jim!

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-------am still in the dark as to where I could possibly find the service manual for this 71 safari--thought about draping some plastic tarp over it-but am afraid that it may somehow mark the aluminum-------thanx all for your advice and help----ciao--jim from mich
You can obtain photocopies of the original manuals utilizing the information below that has been quoted from the Vintage Airstream Club website. You also may be able to obtain "comb-bound" reproductions through the Airstream Store as well -- check:

http://www.airstream.com/shop/dynami...n=cat&offset=5

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Q: I need an owners and service manual for my Airstream. Where can I get one?
A: The first owners manuals were published in 1964. Prior to that, the owner received a brown envelope containing parts lists and other helpful information on the accessories in his trailer. The VAC has started making these available in the Members Archive section. A service manual with instructions for performing service operations did not exist until 1972.
You can get photocopies of owners manual (1964+) and service manuals (1972-1986) from:

Helen Davis Secretarial Services
PO Box 484 Sidney, OH 45365
(937)492-8885

Prices are about $33 and $70 respectively. After 1986 the Owners Manuals included available service information.
My suggestion would be to avoid the urge to cover your coach with anything that will contact the skin. Even gentle breezes will result in rub marks between the cover and the coach's skin. A good coat of Walbernize will help to protect the exterior from the elements -- see:

http://www.airstream.com/shop/dynami...=cat&offset=10

Good luck with your Safari!

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Wow, looks great! Your patience has been rewarded with a real gem! Ditto on the heater issue--not worth taking a chance. Until you replace the heater you can do a work around with a 'Heater Buddy' for about $80.00. Its propane and rated for inside. Still, you have to ventilate via a couple of the windows being opened more than a little. Something to keep you warm while you are sitting in the object of your new affection and thinking how dang lucky you are to find such a great AS pod. Also, do 'econo' and 'AS' really belong in the same sentence? My hunch is you will find they do not.

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