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Old 11-29-2006, 08:10 PM   #15
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Baron,

Thanks for your book suggestion on Rivets. I am definitely going to pick it up. Thanks for your encouragement. That window project is really coming into focus with everyone's help.

Stephen and Allison
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:24 PM   #16
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.....riveters and leak finders??.....
for the rivets - steady as she goes - all the reading in the world will not make the first one any easier buck up that confidence and drill the puppy out.

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We know very little about the viabilily of the appliances. The Dometic refrigerator appears to cool but it is also very mildewed and cracked in the door and gasket.
Check out our photos - is your fridge the same size or smaller? We had the same problem with the interior door - our seal was fine but the plastic was held together with duck tape. There is a Dometic guy up here in Canada that has tons of the parts. We were lucky to pick up a replacement door for $29.00. We removed our door and the replaced the bad parts with the good parts - sorry the left over is long gone - but I could look up that fellows number for you? pm me if you think it might be an idea for you.

Sort of depends on what you want to do with YOUR trailer - keep it all orginal and get into the Vintage scene - or do you want to make the trailer fully functional right away.

a $29.00 price tag compared with a 400-600 price tag was the intial decision for us. Our fridge works great.



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The Bowen hot water heater seems original; we haven't yet figured how to tell if it is even functional.
You can follow one of our threads about the Bowen Water Heater - when we look back oh how green we were!!! to the point of almost blowing Peter's head of - with no orifice in the flame mechanism. - We were so tuned to getting all the parts to fire her up - that we bypassed the fact that it might just leak - so learn from our mistake - fill it up first and see if it leaks - if it comes out the bottom then you will be replacing it. For good deals try Camping Worlds discount store in BowlingGreen Kentucky

OLD PROPANE LINES???? if they are the orginals - they will be extremley britle and need to be replaced. As the pipe is outside the belly pan it is susceptible to stones - with britle copper it will punture and crimp easily affecting your presure. The Propane appliances are very sensitive and if they do not have the right pressure they will not operate. This could lead you to believe that the appliance is faulty when in fact it could be a split or pin hole in the lines. Next take your Regulator to a profession propane supplier and have them test it.

The stovetop seem to work, but we've not yet lit the oven. [/QUOTE] We have to turn all the burners on to perge the lines if we have not used her for a while. Our oven cooktop works great to.

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We have no idea whether the Hydro Flame furnace is viable.
Recommend that you completely remove the furnace to inspect and give a thorough clean - they are not often used by most people (hmm no Canadian Climates in the South) There could be nests or surface rust accumulated - huge fire hazard. With all the 69's I have met that have this furnace the big comment is that they have replaced the old thermo-coupler and the pilot light gasket and she fires up no problem. We are in the midst of that process now - waiting on parts.

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Does anyone have an ordering of priorities for newbies to get started?
Of course all of the above is burried deap within the bowels of this forum and could take you months to get answers to all your questions. And I am sure you will figure out there are 100 different ways to do the same thing.

The most important item while she is sitting on your driveway going no where is to leak proof her - it does not have to be a pretty job but there is nothing worse that have a leak unoticed. Check everywhere after a rain or better still during a rain - behind the seats, under the counters in the trunk.

The 69's have a pop rivet in the window eyebrows where water can drip inside the window - the window well will then fill up and overflow inside the trailer drip down the wall then along the ledges and keep going toward the floor. If this is unchecked for 35 years then there is your floor rot - we were lucky that only a portion of the compartment lid was just starting to show sign of water damage. Thus we jamed those holes really quick. parbon silver or clear is a good quick fix - put it everywhere - lights markes, rub rail - seams that have space - clean up with paint thinner.

Window and door gaskets check - big job - time consuming - but worth it

Up at the atenna is another big culprit - or around the AC. Another sneaky one is the stink pipe - there is now a black rubber gaskect that you can install to prevent rain from dripping onto the black pipe and down in through the closet again to the floor.

A big tell tail of water damage is the original floor is no longer there or the tiles have lifted and long gone. We were extremely lucky in that department.

Before going anywhere - systems are always a good thing to start with. Plumbing, Electrical, Applicances.

A really smart investment on these old trailers is a NEW Axle and full running gear. They are made to travel on soft feet - not hard nails - and the speeds in which we now travel compared to 37 years ago is considerable.

You can make your wish list on all the appliances -but the two best to have is a proper charging and operating electrical system and nice to have running water. But a 5 gal jug will suffice as you knock off the items on your list.

Do you have any manuals for your appliances???? We found really nice people at these forums who also just purchased a 69 GT a month after we purchased ours. Theirs came with the original manuals and a lot more headaches than ours did - but we had no manuals - they copied everything for us. PM me if you would like a copy.....of a copy.....

for those who have seen this a 1000 times I do appologies - but I know what it is like to wade through 100's of threads to try and get a quick answer which we all can provide.

Keep your questions coming - that is what this forum is and info exchange - and it is really great!!
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:42 PM   #17
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Hi Peter and Sharon,

We are blown away by your generosity and thoughtfulness. We were about to sign off at the end of a long day of work trying to wade through all the piles of threads. You have singlehandedly with your careful and thorough response today and in yesterday's pm with pictures and text about window replacement pulled us back from the brink.

Your empathy and enthusiam for the plight of 2 newbies is phenomenal. I plan to plan to digest your ideas and respond over the next couple of days with more questions.

That darn day job is still getting in the way of my A/s fever.

And we thought this thread was dead.

Thanks again!

Stephen and Allison

PS We think you and Sharon make a great team.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:54 PM   #18
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Furnace recall info for ALL VINTAGE

This may be a place to remind all members of an old thread... Furnace Recall....
..... for all Furnaces made from 66 to 77.
Campaign : 77E-012 initiated summer of 77
Campaign : 81E-015 initiated winter 81-82
The furnaces were models NT-17, NT-20, NT-22 and NT-30 manufactured between 66 & 70 The serial numbers were 0064881 and lower.
Also Furnaces made between 1970 & 1977 except those with an "M" suffix, The serial numbers are: 0064881 through 0715865
The recall specifies:" if the model and serial number of your furnace falls within those noted, have it inspected unless you are VERY SURE the Suburban recall has already been completed on your unit"
The furnaces in question have a rubber-like crossover tube that could crack . Extremely dangerous carbon monoxide would then be expelled into the interior.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:57 PM   #19
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That darn day job is still getting in the way of my A/s fever
Stupid work....Who invented that anyway

I see you all are from Richmond. I used to live in Hampton and my aunt still lives in Richmond. I used to go there on weekends and hit the bars in Shokoe (sp?) bottom. Saw Dave Mathews there before he made the big time. I miss VA but not the taxes.
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:05 PM   #20
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Now that I think about it, my aunt is a costume designer for the Richmond theatre. Years ago I customized my van interior and recruited her to sew curtains and upholustry (sp? again). She did a jam up job and might be interested in doing some side work if you are interested. I'm going to try to get her help with mine when the time comes but that is a way off.
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:49 PM   #21
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My aunt lives in Richmond

Hi again Baron,

This newbie thread is about getting all the help we can and your aunt sounds like just the ticket!

Do you ever get up to Richmond to visit your aunt? Shockoe Slip and Shockoe Bottom have expanded tremendously with more shops, restraunts bars and clubs than Dave Matthews could shake a stick at.

What is your part of Florida like?

Keep those good ideas coming folks.

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Old 11-30-2006, 09:03 PM   #22
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Meolody Ranch,

Thanks for watching over us newbies. It certainly sound like your recall information could include our very furnace.

I am tempted to find a match and go check it out right now. Those darn serial numbers are so hard to see in the dark...

Stephen and Allison

PS We plan to take those photos of the shelves this weekend. TGIF!!
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Meolody Ranch,

Thanks for watching over us newbies. It certainly sound like your recall information could include our very furnace.

I am tempted to find a match and go check it out right now. Those darn serial numbers are so hard to see in the dark...

Stephen and Allison

PS We plan to take those photos of the shelves this weekend. TGIF!!
Yes that was a great post - however I think it is refering to suburban furnaces only.

I suspect that for the Caravel you would not have a forced air furnace like the suburbans.

I would take a guess that you have the same furnace as we do....
Manufactured by Duo-Therm - Series 61604 - Recessed Vent, Gas Sealed Combustion Wall Furnace.
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