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12-30-2007, 10:02 PM
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New Member
1963 22' Safari
napa
, California
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1
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new member with a special 63 safari
hello:
my name is rob and i have recently purchased one of the 47 airstreams that wally took on the world tour in 63/64. are there any other members who might have world tour trailers i could talk with? i have a little knowledge about the trip but where would one find out more about this special trailer?
very excited to be an airstreamer,
rob
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12-30-2007, 10:39 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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Welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us. Congrats on your new Airstream. That's quite a find.
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12-30-2007, 10:40 PM
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I love Airstreams...
Commercial Member
1989 29' Land Yacht
Haines City
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 287
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nice....
nice little bit of history you have there...
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12-31-2007, 04:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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Photos, please. We'd all like to see what kind of condition such a historic Airstream is in. And welcome to the Vintage world (pun fully intended--do you labor in the vineyards?).
Zep
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01-01-2008, 06:45 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
Crestview
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 319
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Welcome aboard! That's sounds very interesting with your purchase. Certainly need pix! I do believe that 1963 was a good year for vintage!
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02-07-2008, 10:55 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 411
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Since Wally died in 1962, I don't think he led the World Caravan in '63/'64. In Bryan Burkhart's book "Airstream - History of the Landyacht" there are several photos of the World Caravan. Fran Hall was one of the photographers on the trip. His trailer was a Safari - same one?? Darol
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02-08-2008, 12:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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Darol,
The Around the World Caravan was lead by Andy Charles, who lost his bid to become the head of Airstream after Wally's death. The top job went to Art Costello and they assigned Andy Charles to lead the caravan instead. I actually think Andy got the better deal.
#8671 was not the Hall's Safari. #8671 belonged to Cecil and Mary Tolle of Elwood, IN. The Halls' trailer was #83 and is clearly visible in several photo's from the Around the World Caravan (as well as the 5 part video series). #8671 has not turned up in any photo's that I have seen, but it can be found in the video series.
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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10-27-2008, 08:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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Rob,
I am so terribly dissappointed that you do not recognize and want to preserve your historic trailer. It is an absolute shame that you have gutted it and are selling the guts in Craigslist:
own a piece of history - round the world caravan interior
And in case the Craigslist ad is pulled, here is the text and photo's:
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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10-27-2008, 08:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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Well... I guess it's still going to travel around the country... just as a big beehive! Interesting layout... windows are different than my '63 TW. I like the bigger window on the curbside front (like a lower vista view). Wonder if it has a pull out gaucho in the rear.. the windows are all differnt from the mid back on both sides. Also, has some interesting "patches" on the rear uppers on both sides... some sort of hatches?
I'd love to learn more ... is there a Wally Hatch?
Guess it'll be painted yellow and black.
Marc
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10-28-2008, 01:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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10-28-2008, 04:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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I too feel betrayed having talked to Rob several times about the historical significance of this trailer. I had offered to repay his purchase price just to save old 8671. Rob assured me that no permanent modification would be made to the trailer and that it's history would be respected.
Because he specifically wanted an Airstream, he could have easily bought a gutted vintage Airstream closer to home and for less money, but he chose to purchase a historic trailer on the other side of the U.S. and then spend grant money to bring it to Napa Valley, California and gut it. That is premeditated.
I would have felt better had this trailer been destroyed in an accident. But knowing that someone who understood the historical significance of the trailer could purposfully and permanently tear it apart and sell the pieces breaks my heart and causes me to lose a little faith in people.
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Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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10-28-2008, 05:58 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Greeeneville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,301
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Since I have nothing nice to say, I guess I'll have to stop here.
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10-28-2008, 06:09 AM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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Wow... now things are being reveled here that concern me too... Is there some reason that another trailer could have not been used? Any other trailer. Something that was let go and the interior is totally shot in it? I will trade you my 1962 Overlander for that one. How about a 1963 Overlander. I know of one for sale and I will buy it ... my trailer went on a maritime caravan and then was used as a shore cottage. No historical significance there... I love her dearly and she has given me the best camping season of my life, but she never went around the world. That is serious.
How about you shove the interior back in and I will meet you somewhere in Nebraska and we can trade. You gain 4 feet of trailer and I get a trailer that can be treated the way it should.
Feel free to PM me....
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10-28-2008, 07:16 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,617
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To make matters worse (if possible), the funding for the destruction of this historic trailer is being funded through a grant. I doubt that the trailer's owner will see any of these posts because he has not been back to this site since his original post last year. The funding for this project is being paid for by:
The Creative Work Fund
One Lombard Street, Suite 305
San Francisco, CA 94111
For information, call 415-402-2793
Creative Work Fund
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Richard
Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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10-28-2008, 07:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Boo Hiss...
Hmmm...wonder if the grant donors are aware of how their monies are destroying a bit of history? Guess it's too late to do any good ~
Shari
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10-28-2008, 07:49 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Damn..
Having owned a 63 Safari...I'm really pissed.
Ours was very special to US, this one was important to ALL OF US.
It's a sad day in Streamland
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10-28-2008, 07:54 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,617
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I have just sent an email to the director of the fund, I will post the reply if and when I get one...
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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10-28-2008, 08:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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Is this a missing one too?
I am sick about this story.
This is a picture of an abandoned Airstream near me. Does the Wally Caravan logo have significance? I included a close up of the Red Numbers so it can be searched out.
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10-28-2008, 08:38 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
Posts: 4,360
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Any vintage Airstream has some significance to me, especially one with a Wally Byam Caravan sticker. Is there any way to get a pix of the name plate with serial number of this trailer? Looks like a Safari model with the entry door so close to the wheelwell. Is this for sale or just rotting away in someone's back pasture? Sad indeed.
Brad
FF
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