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Old 10-28-2008, 01:41 PM   #29
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You may want to check his web site. I do not know of a physical address being as I only communicated by email and phone with him.
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:18 PM   #30
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The situation on THIS trailer is different. We did a story in the Vintage Advantage newsletter and several people worked with Rob to get him information about this historic trailer and were given assurances that the trailer's integrity and history would be respected and preserved. This trailer actually has more documented history behind it than practically any other trailer out there.
Rob was offered on more than one occasion to sell the trailer so that its history could be preserved. He refused that offer because he wanted that piece of history.
Now, after a few years of use, this trailer is destined for the scrap heap.
Perhaps that is not a big deal to you but to others who have been involved in this since it first hit eBay, or those who were touched by the story in the VA, it is a sad situation.
You can't just let that go...

Still, it's his personal property to do with as he pleases, including ruining it. No matter what he said previously or how much $$ he turned down in the past for it. It's a shame, because I see gutted projects all the time, there are certainly better trailers to use if you just want a shell to start with, not just because of the history, but because I'd rather see any trailer left complete.

But if it's not yours, and you aren't in a position to make it yours, there's nothing you can do BUT let it go.
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:53 PM   #31
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Putting emotion to the side, I agree with Steph.

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Old 10-28-2008, 02:53 PM   #32
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The way government grants usually work, is the grant was awarded to refit that particukar serial number only, and he would get into massive trouble if he sold the trailer, even though he got a replacement. .
This is not a government grant- it's from a not-for-profit. Even if they specified a particular serial number (which I seriously doubt), the grant agreement could be revised for another unit.
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there's nothing you can do BUT let it go.
Or buy it.
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:10 PM   #34
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Message To Rob K.

Hey, Rob,
Do you remember that old Johnny Carson Routine?
May a billion bees bite your bottom. A thousand boos to you.
Sorry everyone I just could'nt stop myself.
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:21 PM   #35
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Still, it's his personal property to do with as he pleases, including ruining it. No matter what he said previously or how much $$ he turned down in the past for it. It's a shame, because I see gutted projects all the time, there are certainly better trailers to use if you just want a shell to start with, not just because of the history, but because I'd rather see any trailer left complete.

But if it's not yours, and you aren't in a position to make it yours, there's nothing you can do BUT let it go.
Stef,

Thanks again for the comforting words - somehow they aren't helping much.
As for buying it, like I said, Rob obviously did not accept any of the offers made to him. He wanted THAT trailer in large part because of the history he is now dumping in wholesale fashion.
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:51 PM   #36
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Here is one small link about rob, http://regenerativedesign.org/rob-keller
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:55 PM   #37
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http://www.napavalleybeecompany.com/ in his blog he seems to have a soft spot for the airstream(notice the photos and how it is included in so many shots...,check it out and offer your opinions if you care to .
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:15 PM   #38
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Here is one very telling quote from his July 16th blog. For me it speaks for itself:

It’s exciting to be back and show off the trailer. The one person that understood my almost immediate connection with the trailer and it’s energy was -name withheld-. Go figure the car guy is able to relate to what I’m talking about when I explain how I feel in the trailer. I haven’t even unpacked my things from the trip, I’m just leaving things where they are. It will force me to go into the caravan at least once a day.
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:56 PM   #39
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wow.. it seems like after reading some of his blogs he might actually love this little trailer but then how could he turn it into a circus act.. Well to each his own. He cant have my airstream. He might make it into a car hauler.. yikes..
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:20 AM   #40
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You may want to check his web site. I do not know of a physical address being as I only communicated by email and phone with him.
You may be able to find the address by doing a reverse look up of the telephone #. Otherwise, it can usually be done using a city directory but that usually requires a trip to the library of whatever town it is the person resides in.

BTW-- I have a friend who has a vintage gutted out Airstream shell on a frame. He asked me if it would be feasible to sell it on ebay or something. It's a late 50's single axle, sorry I don't have more details but if anyone is interested I will look at it and get back with you. This trailer is located in Crestview, FL and it's setting in the guys backyard. He origianlly gutte it to trun it into a "tool hauler", don't ask me why. I told him when he first got it to sell it as is and buy himself an enclosed trailer. Well he didn't listen and didn't even sell off the interior contents, hauled it all off to the dump! Appliances, water heater, cabinets, shower, holding tank and all. Now he realizes he should hve bought an enclosed trailer. I asked him who's going to haul thousands of dollars worth of tools in a trailer with windows anyways! A lot of things people do don't make sense!
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:40 AM   #41
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Everyone let's take a step back for a moment. Please do not send any more derogitory emails to Mr. Keller. I have received a long email from him and need to runravel the situation (tomorrow).

This appears to be a case of a project getting out of hand. As they started into restoring the trailer the floor rot and other damage began to mount beyond what the grant funds would allow to be repaired. They were not prepared for the extensive floor replacement and other fixes that this trailer requires.

As panic set in, there was an urgen need to "dispose" of the interior contents that were clogging up the yard due to "complaints" - thus the quick ad on Craigslist. As it sits the interior is out but still all there - carefully removed, but much of it in need of restoration or rebuilding itself as it too was falling apart whenit was removed.

Mr. Keller is open to offers to sell or exchange this trailer for another Airstream that does not have the history. He is looking to get most of what he has invested in it out of it. I am not certain what price that will entail at this point, but we need to see if there is real interest in saving the trailer. Had it not been moved from Ohio to California, I might be interested, but at this time California is too far away for me. This will not be a project for the fient of heart. If there are other serious takers, please speak up.

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Old 10-29-2008, 09:08 AM   #42
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If someone buys it i can go get it and store it safely until they pick it up. Im only 45 minutes from him.
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