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Old 01-03-2014, 09:26 AM   #1
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New member from Austin, TX with 30' Agosy

Hello! I thought I would introduce myself to the forums here and let everyone know about my upcoming project. I just purchased a 1978 30' Argosy in Arkansas and towed it back to Austin yesterday. I have to say I couldnt believe how smoothly the trailer pulled! I'm looking to find fellow Argosy owners in the central Texas area and share tips and such about renovation, rallies, storage facilities, campgrounds etc.

Here's a few things Id like to share about my first experience towing a 30' Argosy.

1. Brake controllers are excellent! I had never heard of one until I inquired about towing on the forums here. Several members commented that I would need one. I got a Tekonsha Voyager from Texas Truck and Trailer and installed it myself using a helpful video from etrailers.com. It was a tremendous help braking the extra weight of the trailer safely and in control.

2. Strong headwinds were surprisingly sway inducing, more than crosswinds. I was surprised by this because I had anticipated that a crosswind would be more difficult. Not sure why this was but Im sure someone with more experience and knowledge could tell me.

3. All in all the trailer was a real "dream" to pull. I've towed smaller trailers, cars and boats before that were far more "squirrely." From the mountains of Arkansas, to the plains of Oklahoma to the congestion of Dallas and Austin, this trailer was really well behaved! The only tough spots were driving through a strong headwind to the west on I40 in OK, and changing lanes in heavy traffic in Dallas.

So Ive found several storage facilities online here in the Austin area but I thought I'd ask around here and see if anyone had any recommendations. My dream storage facility would be a person with extra land that I could park it on and do some work on it! OR better yet a fellow AS renovator that had extra space that I could learn from. Anyway Im really happy to be a part of the community here at Air Forums and I look forward to sharing with you my experiences working on my Argosy!
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Old 01-03-2014, 10:22 AM   #2
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Welcome to the ranks of Argosy owners!

Without knowing much about what you're towing with or what was in the Argosy when you were towing out of Arkansas, I'm just speculating about what may be going on. I find that my 24' Argosy is a bit more "settled" when I have water in the freshwater tank, which is above the floor right at the front so it increases the tongue weight. That said, I haven't noticed any bad behavior in headwinds, other than emptying the fuel tank at an alarming rate.
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Welcome to the forums! There are many Argosy owners here. I have a 24' Argosy that I am in the process of refurbishing.

Our WBCCI unit will be having a rally in the Austin area later this month at the Lone Star RV Park January 23-23, 2014. Come join us or stop by for a visit.
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Old 01-03-2014, 10:31 AM   #4
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Hey DKB the Argosy is a 30' with nothing special in it that I can tell. The tow vehicle is a 2013 Chevy Avalanche. Yes headwinds do deplete the fuel tank fast!!

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Without knowing much about what you're towing with or what was in the Argosy when you were towing out of Arkansas, I'm just speculating about what may be going on. I find that my 24' Argosy is a bit more "settled" when I have water in the freshwater tank, which is above the floor right at the front so it increases the tongue weight. That said, I haven't noticed any bad behavior in headwinds, other than emptying the fuel tank at an alarming rate.
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2. Strong headwinds were surprisingly sway inducing, more than crosswinds. I was surprised by this because I had anticipated that a crosswind would be more difficult. Not sure why this was but Im sure someone with more experience and knowledge could tell me.
Probably the same reason that flags flutter in the wind instead of being blown out straight and sailboats can't sail directly into the wind. Unlike your slipstream, that is always symmetrical if your vehicle is symmetrical, headwinds have random slight variations that cause the air pressure to be sometimes higher on one side of the trailer, and sometimes on the other. Thus a headwind blows your trailer both ways at random intervals, leading to sway. A crosswind blows from just one direction, and you compensate by steering ever-so-slightly upwind to keep traveling straight.

I don't tow a trailer, I drive an Airstream Interstate, but that big slab-sided van does the same thing when a semi passes me, and then cuts back into my lane too close. Until he gets far enough ahead for me to get out of his slipstream, the headwind he's creating for me causes my steering to wobble all over. Then when he gets far enough ahead, it smooths out nicely.
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Welcome to the forums! There are many Argosy owners here. I have a 24' Argosy that I am in the process of refurbishing.

Our WBCCI unit will be having a rally in the Austin area later this month at the Lone Star RV Park January 23-23, 2014. Come join us or stop by for a visit.
23-23 Bruce? Not even staying overnight?
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:10 AM   #8
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Yes I think you've got it! The crosswind also has a fair amount of predictability as well. Headwinds could move it to either side depending on the slight angle they were relative to me.


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Probably the same reason that flags flutter in the wind instead of being blown out straight and sailboats can't sail directly into the wind. Unlike your slipstream, that is always symmetrical if your vehicle is symmetrical, headwinds have random slight variations that cause the air pressure to be sometimes higher on one side of the trailer, and sometimes on the other. Thus a headwind blows your trailer both ways at random intervals, leading to sway. A crosswind blows from just one direction, and you compensate by steering ever-so-slightly upwind to keep traveling straight.

I don't tow a trailer, I drive an Airstream Interstate, but that big slab-sided van does the same thing when a semi passes me, and then cuts back into my lane too close. Until he gets far enough ahead for me to get out of his slipstream, the headwind he's creating for me causes my steering to wobble all over. Then when he gets far enough ahead, it smooths out nicely.
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:59 PM   #9
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23-23 Bruce? Not even staying overnight?

Should have been Jan 23-26, 2014.

Thanks, David.

Somebody needs to proof read my posts.
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:29 AM   #11
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Ok so Thursday through Sunday?? I will swing by there! I would like to see how your refurb is going and meet you of course.

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Sounds great!! I will not get there until Friday around noon. I have to work Thursday.
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headwind stability

Welcome to the forums! As a long time motorcyclist I can tell you that following close behind a large vehicle predeceases very unsettled air that tends to want to turn the bike from one side to the other. I think in your case your tow vehicle is producing unsettled air. Shifting stuff around to increase the tongue weight may help. There are special hitches that will fix the problem (Hensley, Pull Right and ProPride) but at a significant cost. Or a friction type sway control device may be all you need. In any case don't ignore it it's dangerous!
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:40 PM   #14
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Hey folks here's some pics of my trailer...

Taking a breather in Texasvafter a long haul from Arkansas...


Airing out after 3 days of rain. I've found some leaks..


Her original place of sale...Yakima, Washington.


Interior shot. The tea kettle was catching a leak...
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