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Old 04-07-2009, 10:36 PM   #15
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I'm getting an education. Yes, I have the HEMI. No, I hadn't considered some of the weights mentioned, passengers, propane, etc. I can't thank you all enough for your input and links to useful info. I can't wait to be a streamer!

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Old 04-08-2009, 07:00 AM   #16
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These big-mid SUVs don't have quite as much oomph as an HD 1/2 ton pickup. It will take some finessing -- if a 27' Classic is even possible. Check it out well. We'll want to hear more of the story.


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Old 04-08-2009, 08:22 AM   #17
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Give it a try!

As I read through this thread again ,including my own posts, I had an epiphany. Give the Aspen a try.

Step 1 - Acquire the Airstream of your dreams. If it is the 27FB Classic, so be it. Keep in mind that if you take to Airstreaming (and I know that you will) you will probably own this Airstream for the rest of your lives. So, get exactly what you want. The Tow vehicle issue is secondary as your Airstream will outlast numerous tow vehicles.

Step 2 - Since you already own the Aspen, try towing the Airstream with it. Don't overdo prepping the Aspen for towing. Do only the things that are easily transferable to another tow vehicle, like a WDAS (weight distributing, anti-sway) hitch system, trailer brake controller, tow mirrors, etc.

Step 3 - If the Aspen is up to the job and you feel comfortable with it's towing capabilities, go forward with any additional upgrades, like tires, transmission cooler, heavier duty receiver, shocks, springs, etc.

Hopefully, Step 3 will be the end, but if not, you will be in a much better position to consider your options relative to a tow vehicle.

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Old 04-08-2009, 10:38 AM   #18
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I agree with Bob and Brian (before his epiphany). This is a borderline thing at best. Classics are a lot heavier than Safari/Flying Clouds. But even the S/FC trim line can be somewhat heavier than the weights given by Airstream because they load lots of options on all of them. The solid wood cabinet work on the Classics may be the biggest reason for the big weight difference. The Internationals are closer to the S/FC in weight. Check the Airstream website for specs and be aware they sometimes contradict themselves in the info given in their brochures.

Payload (how much cargo and tongue wt. the TV can handle with adjustments for a WD hitch) is a big issue. SUV's of the same brand will almost always have less payload than pickups. The most expensive trim line (i.e., Aspen) will have so extra goodies, payload will be even less. When you look up payload info given out by Dodge, the options will not be be subtracted from the payload figure and you have to figure it out yourself. Fuel and coolant may or may not be taken into account in figuring payload depending on the manufacturer.

You can make up some of the weight issue by taking less stuff with you—less food, clothes, etc. That stuff has a tendency to creep upward with time. There's a lot of things that tend to end up in the TV—generator, extra fuel, tools, outside chairs and table, etc. Make some allowance for that.

Our decision was to buy a 25' Safari FB and tow with a 1/2 ton pickup—a Tundra. Works very well for us, but I feel we are close on payload, probably at 90%, not 80%. There's plenty of room on GVWR and GCVWR, but it's the payload.

Maybe Brian (post epiphany) is right. See how it works. The Airstream will be around a lot longer than any TV and you want to get the right trailer. Have the Airstream determine the TV, not the TV determine the Airsteam (we didn't do it quite that way since we weren't going to have any TV but a Toyota). You indicate you have some time before you make a decision, so take your time to learn.

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Wow...two, three, four Try-it's in a row. Are we getting too civilized around here?
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"Sticks & stones can break your bones...and hail will dent your Airstream"

So when is this..."old enough to know better" supposed to kick in?
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:53 AM   #20
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I was amazed when I saw cosmotini's 28' International brand new at the Midwest Rally in June '07. Wow! Don't overlook that possibility. Surprise of all surprises -- it's an inch shorter than the 27' FB. Go figger... But it's a beautiful, roomy Airstream!

However the tongue weight is 100# more.


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