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Old 01-10-2010, 09:18 AM   #15
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1st Weekend Backyard Outing

SC has been shivering with the cold spell over the SE and we chose this weekend to try it out. Nighttime highs about 20 degrees.

We fired it up and watched movies on the built in sytem, the front couch was in a perfect spot for the sound system, really nice. Electric coffee pot in tha AM. We spent some of Saturday loading up the kitchen, but we did not leave any food in it. Saturday evening a couple of steaks, veggies and more movies.

A very nice start, we are both impressed.

Here are the topics from our cold weather start.

1. Windows needed adjustment to pinch the seal.
2. Sat. added a double row of std. pink paper backed insulation at the back of the rear storage box. I could lift the bed and see into the storage area, that is/was un-insulated.
3. Fan-Fan cover was not cinched down all the way, saw some condensate drip.
4. Darn birds like to peck the window reflection. They should have learned from the pesky male cardinal that wouldn't back off a couple of years ago on the house.
5. Furnace worked pretty good. Suprized as to how much propane we used, but it was 20-40 degrees, ran it since Friday AM.
6. I would like to know what suggestions the AS crowd has for adding insulation to the various vents, fans and skylights, heat rises and a thin layer of plastic doesn't stop it.

Overall a very positive start, we still have a lot of systems that we haven't tested. This was a dry run.

I didn't figure out where to post a first run, so I just tacked it on here.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:36 AM   #16
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Hello SC!

Hello, and welcome aboard! I'm new here too, still on the hunt for a trailer, might have found one. Looks like you've got yourself a nice AS! Can't believe you were out in that freezing weather- it's amazing how cold it's gotten down here! I was in MI a couple weeks ago, and even though the temps are about the same, it feels so much colder here! Just thought I'd say a friendly hello from just N. of Charlotte!
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:50 AM   #17
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We love our slide out and although the dealer commented here that they only extended the slide for a short time for a picture, to be on the safe side the stabilizers should have been down. It's not got anything to do with the length of time the slide is extended. The reasoning is the slide can torque the frame which could allow for the slide to get mis-aligned. The first words that my dealer said to me on delivery day was do not move the slide unit in or out without the stabilizers down. I've lived by that, and my slide has performed flawlessly.

The only caution I can give you is that when in wind driven rain when the slide is extended, water can get under the protective awning and collect and sit on top of the slide roof. You won't find out until you retract the slide and notice that water starts to come inside as the slide moves inward. It's not a lot, and from my experience is a rare occasion. I carry a long handled squeegee which I use to pull the water off (if present), if I'm departing after a windblown rainstorm.

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5. Furnace worked pretty good. Suprized as to how much propane we used, but it was 20-40 degrees, ran it since Friday AM.
6. I would like to know what suggestions the AS crowd has for adding insulation to the various vents, fans and skylights, heat rises and a thin layer of plastic doesn't stop it.

Overall a very positive start, we still have a lot of systems that we haven't tested. This was a dry run.

I didn't figure out where to post a first run, so I just tacked it on here.
Yes it will use a lot. I camped in Springfield Il. a few Octobers ago and it was a raw cold cloudy fall weekend. Temps were in the mid 30's and while it never got below freezing, it was too cold for the heat pump so the furnace ran. Bottom line we pretty much exhausted one of the 30 lb. tanks in that 3 day weekend. Glad I had two full tanks.

Keep in mind that if your trailer is like mine, you have an electric element that will heat your hot water. When we have electrical hookups we run the water heater on electric. We only turn on the gas switch when we take showers. That allows much quicker tank recovery since both heat sources are working together to keep that water hot. This will save you a lot of gas.

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Old 01-10-2010, 10:54 AM   #19
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10 degree (without windchill) new years camping, we used a full 30# tank over 3 days... I figured that was only because DW wanted it a toasty 75F during the day... I also had some light dripping from the front fan-fan, but it appeared to be condensation

There was another thread about insulating the underside of the bed platform... I think for ours, insulating the trunk door is more effective... mine iced up pretty good

The only ongoing 'issue' for me is adequate foundation under the stabilizers... having asphalt pad, or even hard packed gravel works great... but it only takes a little bit of settling to 'rack' the frame enough to make opening/closing door difficult... I can reduce settling with 2x8's... but real soft ground (heavy rains) gets problematic
Is this a problem for others?
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:27 AM   #20
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Jack,

So far the slide function has worked very well, but I do not have a comparison AS as a guide. And I will run stabs 1st then slide, I promise.

If I were to guess, I ran about 3/4 of a 40lb tank for this adventure. Next weekend, well, I don't know, but it is going to warm up into the 50's.

finalcutjoe,

Do you have a description or picture of your door insulation method? I know I improved it, but on the side of the head of the bed, the little narrw shelf area, it still felt pretty chilly.

I'm sitting on sandy dirt and I put almost a square foot 2X under the stab pads, but I'll check the pressure on them today, certainly could have settled. I plan on reworking my pad spot, upgrading the tire areas, leveling it a bit more.

Looking forward to a campfire based weekend with the AS.

Finally figured out the "double" step, tricky!

Jack, my 5th wheel neighbor came over and one of his first checks was the HWT breaker, made sure it was off. When we hook up water, we'll test the H2O sides of the systems.

ashbongo10, thanks. You'll enjoy it when you find it. If you are still looking, PM me and I can tell you a bit about what I found here in SC, depends on what you are looking for.

Best regards,

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Oh yes.. the slide out adjustment http://www.airforums.com/forums/f274...ent-47113.html

That was fun...

The good news is the frame is BEEFY! I have had the belly pan down while inspecting all my slide adjustments. I think there have been improvements in the S/O's since mine came out. Its good advise but i dont think there was any harm done by the dealer from what I can see based on all the heavy duty components..

Good question about the skylights etc.. In my Winnebago I have fuzzy cushions that fit nicely in all the openings to the vents. They work great and really trap the heat in. I have been thinking about making something for the Airstream to provide the same function.

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