Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-04-2009, 11:23 AM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
Foil-warped's Avatar
 
2005 25' Safari
FL Panhandle , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 40
New and sick to my stomach.

We sold our SOB motor home and I gave my husband an ultimatum: Airstream or nothing. I was tired of watching RV's rapidly deteriorate in the driveway. Also, we wanted a recent model that didn't require a lot of work and we could use now. We found a 2005 Safari in pristine condition and we bought it way too fast and probably paid way too much... I say that because I had no idea about the filiform erosion problem, until after we brought it home, and I read the thread in this forum. Sure enough, our new shiny baby had several tiny white "worms" coming out of the rivets around the belt and a few others, too. I immediately became sick to my stomach and wondered if a divorce was pending. Hubby has been a prince about it though, saying, everything deteriorates in Florida, and he'd still rather have an A/S. But I am majorly upset and disappointed. This is just the kind of thing I was trying to avoid. I read most of the 72 pages of posts in this forum about remedies, or lack of, and we are confused about what to do. Advice and reassurance sorely needed!
__________________

__________________
Foil-warped is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 11:29 AM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Melody Ranch's Avatar
 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View , Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,960
Images: 78
Send a message via Skype™ to Melody Ranch
Just relax

Filiform on an airstream is just cosmetic. If one does not have it...wait...you will. There should be nothing there to keep you from enjoying your Airstream......except your own misplaced anxiety. Go have fun.
__________________

__________________
Melody Ranch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 11:39 AM   #3
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foil-warped View Post
We sold our SOB motor home and I gave my husband an ultimatum: Airstream or nothing. I was tired of watching RV's rapidly deteriorate in the driveway. Also, we wanted a recent model that didn't require a lot of work and we could use now. We found a 2005 Safari in pristine condition and we bought it way too fast and probably paid way too much... I say that because I had no idea about the filiform erosion problem, until after we brought it home, and I read the thread in this forum. Sure enough, our new shiny baby had several tiny white "worms" coming out of the rivets around the belt and a few others, too. I immediately became sick to my stomach and wondered if a divorce was pending. Hubby has been a prince about it though, saying, everything deteriorates in Florida, and he'd still rather have an A/S. But I am majorly upset and disappointed. This is just the kind of thing I was trying to avoid. I read most of the 72 pages of posts in this forum about remedies, or lack of, and we are confused about what to do. Advice and reassurance sorely needed!
Keeping the trailer, waxed with a top quality wax, minimizes any and all corrosion on the shell.

In Florida, probably a good wash and wax job should be on the agenda every 3 months, or more, depending on how close the the trailer is to the salt water. The closer, the more frequent the exterior PM.

If not, in time, the penalties can become excessive.

Andy
__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 11:39 AM   #4
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
the cure is to get a case of MOTION sickness...

hi 'wraped

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foil-warped View Post
... I was tired of watching RV's rapidly deteriorate in the driveway...
buyers remorse takes many forms.

and EVERY blemish seems like a catastrophe.

the problem i read here is that u r watching things deteriorate in the driveway...

GO CAMPING!

these ships are built for travel and travel adds nicks, wear, repairs and MEMORIES to offset the occasional oops.

it's a lot more fun to say...

"honey remember when you backed into that moose in yellowstone, i just love this dent right here..."
_______________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foil-warped View Post
... I read most of the 72 pages of posts in this forum about remedies, or lack of, and we are confused about what to do...
the stream will look best with EVERY CHANGING backdrops. trees, mountains, lakes and giant valleys make the crud insignificant.

THIS is the ultimate remedy.

so IF you've read the entire thread and NOT found a solution or 2,

repeating those solutions in this thread is unlikely 2b useful, but...

ADD belt line trim and acryl-r at the long horizontal panel edge.

this is very effective at COVERING the rivet heads and panel edge where many have issues.

apply a quality sealant twice a year to the skin.

ALL of these things have been covered in great (perhaps excessive) detail.

then go camping someplace and WEAR the thing out...

before YOU deteriorate.
____________________

there is a january rally just 1 hour east of you.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/cale...y=2010-1-8&c=1

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f288...ner-55516.html

it's a good chance to play and look at dozens of 'streams...

all of them have issues and so do the owners,

but they still manage to have a good time, try it!

just check out the photos in these threads, a LOT more fun than reading about crud...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f288...9-a-44317.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f288...lly-35478.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f288...lly-27292.html

cheers
2air'
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 12:40 PM   #5
tpi
Rivet Master
 
2005 25' Safari
Trabuco Canyon , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 866
Images: 2
Not much I can add to the excellent post above.

Look to the corrosion thread for tips to slow the advance of the corrosion. IMO the rate can be reduced using these techniques.

I have an '05 and it has deteriorated more slowly than typical RVs. I suspect yours has too, judging from the "pristine" condition.

But the biggest thought, and I'm echoing the post above is to expect some deterioration from use and the elements and not get too excited about it. View the trailer from 5-10 ft, not inches, and look at it in a camping environment. I think you'll find it still looks great! At least from my experience there will be little dings, corrosion areas, scratches, etc. from normal use.

I just got back from a long trip and some of my favorite Airstream sights are 20+ year old units wearing some age proudly, out camping in beautiful circumstances.
__________________
tpi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 12:54 PM   #6
Moderator
Commercial Member
 
eubank's Avatar
 
1967 30' Sovereign
Bosque Farms , New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,423
Oh, I wouldn't get too upset about a little corrosion. It's a pretty natural occurence: Things deteriorate with age, some faster than others. Our rig has some corrosion, and it'll continue slowly. The rig is now 42 years old; the corrosion won't get out of hand until we're long-since planted.

At least it's not a fiberglass-sided rig. Holy Cow, you should see what happens to them. A little corrosion? No. Complete walls delaminating and having to be replaced wholesale. And this in a relatively short period of time. (We see them with frequency here at the park.)

Like 2airishuman and Andy wrote: Give it a waxing from time to time and GO CAMPING!


Lynn
__________________
WBCCI 21043
eubank is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 01:02 PM   #7
Moderator
 
moosetags's Avatar

 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,762
Images: 5
Greetings from Walton County

First off, Welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

We have a 2005 Safari 25FB, named Lucy, that we bought new in June of 2006. In the past three+ years we have spent over 500 nights in Lucy, and have pulled her over 50,000 miles.

Lucy has some belt line corrosion like you describe. We don't worry about it, and just go on adventures. Lucy has been great in heavy use, and has exceeded our expectations.

We live about 45 miles east of Pensacola in Santa Rosa Beach. We live three houses off the Gulf. We wash Lucy occasionally, and have waxed her once. I don't think that Lucy has any worse corrosion than other late model Airstream we have seen.

Brian
__________________
SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with HAHA
2005 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Olivia) & 2018 Silverado 2500 (Lillian)
moosetags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 02:46 PM   #8
Rivet Master
 
Gene's Avatar
 
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 10,840
'wraped, don't be foiled. We bought an Airstream two years ago and travel with it a lot. But, there have been many, many quality control items, all of which have been covered under warranty. This angers me. On the other hand, we have no corrosion. But our wheels have the coating coming off—a different problem than filiform corrosion, but similar and indicative of Airstream using cheap components.

Fate deals a different hand to everyone.

I use Griot's paint sealant once a year (yeh, it really lasts that long) and occasionally use the Spray on Wax they also sell. This stuff is easy to use. As a preventative measure, I had the trim put on at the beltline that 2air referred to. It looks just like the trim at the bottom of the aluminum panels, though it's not quite the same size vertically.

But, despite my anger with the Airstream factory, we enjoy eating our own food, sleeping in our own bed and having a unique trailer.

So, like 2air suggests, go camping. Enjoy what you've bought, vent here about corrosion, and take steps to deal with it.

Airstream's boss, Bob Wheeler, has promised to post about corrosion (though he's certainly taking his time), so watch this thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f318...eam-53083.html

Gene
__________________
Gene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 02:54 PM   #9
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
folks, lets NOT start another pissnmoan C thread...

IF you need to vent about C go here...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ams-31743.html

or one of the 31 OTHER threads on this issue (with 1 for each type and location of C)...

so far that hasn't happened in the first few posts, but could.

notice i addressed the o.p. as wraped...

when in fact the word is foil-warped

not that this applies in THIS thread or 2 this new member, but...

typically when someone newly registered 2a forum, posts their FIRST thread on a controversy...

in some circles that's trolling, so don't take the bait.

lets all help 'warped get UN-warped and off on some adventure...

or have some tasty bubba gump shrimp instead of being hooked like a dead mackerel.

cheers
2air'
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 03:00 PM   #10
Rivet Master
 
Gene's Avatar
 
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 10,840
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman View Post

notice i addressed the o.p. as wraped...

when in fact the word is foil-warped
Me too. Sorry Foil-warped.

Gene
__________________
Gene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2009, 03:08 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Suburbia , Sunny So Cal
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,756
Corrosion pffft. Get that thing on the road. Go places, see things and eventually the dents, dings, adventures and memories will make you realize how unimportant those "worms" are.
__________________
I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.

WBCCI 6731 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Goin camping is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 07:26 PM   #12
3 Rivet Member
 
Catman6's Avatar
 
1986 Argosy
Denver , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 100
Without reading a lot of the posts yet about corrosion, I know I've dealt with my share of it with my boat. Electrolisis and the salt water KILL the outdrives. Ever bought a pair of Bravo 3 outdrives?! After doing a lot of reading I learned thatA) You have to keep the metal coated with something. Obviously you aren't going to use marine paints, but a good quality sealant will help a lot. For you more technical peeps; On boats we use a minute electrical current to help protect out prescious metals. Is there something similar to use on these trailers?
__________________
Catman6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 07:44 PM   #13
Site Team
 
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,940
Images: 59
Hate to call a halt to all this sealant conversation, but filiform corrosion only occurs under a sealant, not where the worm head is exposed to oxygen. You might be better off taking off the sealant and letting it breathe.
__________________
markdoane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 07:58 PM   #14
4 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
San Diego , California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 331
Images: 6
Sorry to hear that

I live on the West Coast and lucky for us we don't have that problem. NOT!
We have a 2006 Bambi and it has the same problem. It put a bur under my saddle when I first noticed it but it doesn't bother me anymore. I honestly think that it has either stopped corroding or it slowed down that it's advance has become unnoticeable. When I first noticed it I waxed it and have kept that up about twice a year. Maybe that is what has arrested it. So my advice is don't let it bother you.

Bottom line...enjoy your Airstream.

Randy and Patty Bowman
__________________

__________________
OB Bambi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
got that sick feeling - with my *new* TV funkill Tow Vehicles 34 04-07-2009 09:37 PM
i'm sick up and fed..... norbert Our Community 31 03-22-2004 09:08 PM
MY Sick 310 JMChrystie Our Community 3 03-07-2004 03:53 PM
I must be sick ? Bfrank Airstream Motorhome Forums 14 08-14-2002 03:30 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.