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Old 09-10-2017, 01:49 PM   #15
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I would recommend the F250. You will very likely exceed your payload with a family of 4 on a F150. A 30' was my first (and only) Airstream, so don't let the size dissuade you. FC vs International? Mostly decor, so pick the one you like the most.

Good luck and enjoy!
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Old 09-10-2017, 01:55 PM   #16
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If I may, I would also suggest you rent one for a week or so. Yes, it is expensive but it is much cheaper than buying an Airstream and New Truck then realize that it isn't what you thought when you visited your friends. There have been a lot of folks who made a very expensive bad decision.
Very good to read this forum and do lots of research. There are also other brands of TT that may work even better for you so before you buy anything go and check out the RV shows, actually take every one in the family and see how you all fit inside. Then include all your stuff and see where it would all go.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:13 PM   #17
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Hi

Just for reference:

I grew up with boats, trailers, tents, and motor homes in the camping mix. That was true of my parents and grandparents as well. Despite this "accumulated knowledge" it's been a long and twisted path to owning our first AS. That's after *many* decades of family and group camping. Your path does not have to be our path.

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Old 09-10-2017, 02:20 PM   #18
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Years ago, we jumped into sailing buying a new 38' boat. We were told by many an old salt we should start small and slowly work our way up. Obviously, advice we did not take.

And I'm glad we didn't. Even though ultimately we move to a 47'er. What we did do, is practice, practice & more practice docking. And we started off with short, easy trips.

After you buy whatever you buy, I suggest you spend some hours practicing backing up and maneuvering, perhaps in a nearby empty parking lot, with your spotter.

If you are fairly young, you'll get the hang of it, soon enough.

When it comes to TV, make sure you have enough payload capacity. With a family of 4, that might be the biggest limiter on choices.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:47 PM   #19
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Let's back up a bit. Assuming the "kids" are not babies, they take up space. Even if they are infants now, that will not be true for long. This is at least a "10 year" sort of deal. The trailer will run for longer than that. There's plenty to see for more than 10 years.

Unless you are buying used, I'm not a big fan of starting small and bumping up every year or two. Even used, there's no guarantee of it being affordable. Cost wise / towing / fit the 25' FC is not massively far from the 30' FC. Four people in a 19' does not sound like a long term (or even a short term) solution to me.

In some ways these decisions are self fulfilling. You made the commitment so you make it work. As long as it's a well informed decision, that's very possible. If after you buy the trailer you suddenly discover the term "stinky slinky" that would suggest the research was less than adequate ....

Dig into it and if it makes sense, go for it.

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Old 09-10-2017, 03:36 PM   #20
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Someone suggested to start out with a tent first, not to be Negative Nellie, but nah. It is like comparing apples to puppies, just not the same thing. Yes, I would probably suggest renting a trailer (of some sort) first. We have tent camped for many years and it was fun, sorta, but not really on my list of have to events. When you get to go and sleep off the ground and sleep well, be able to prepare meals a tad bit easier, well it just does not compare. We also do not have a Airstream YET, but we do camp in a teardrop these days. Even a teardrop is a huge step up from a tent camping experience but still we will make the jump as soon as we can. We have many people stop by and want the 3 second tour of the teardrop so maybe someone, one day, will walk up and can't live without it and bingo it will be gone. Even if not, everyone needs a backup camper, right? Hope you get all the advice you need to make the exciting decision for your family.
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:37 PM   #21
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I don't feel qualified to advise you on what to choose. Here's my personal philosophy. Buy the smallest trailer that fits your needs. Buy at least a 3/4 ton pick up for a tow vehicle. Then if you wanted to go with a larger trailer later, your pick up would be up to the task. If going with a F 150 I would order the extra payload option. The last thing I want is a marginal tow vehicle that is at its limits weight wise. Be warned that this is my opinion only, and worth about what you are paying for it. Good luck.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:20 AM   #22
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Well, we seem to have (yet again) scared away the OP ....

I've made a couple of wild guesses about their situation. If those guesses are wrong, it probably would be good to correct that bad steer ....

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Old 09-11-2017, 10:38 AM   #23
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Quoting the OP in Post #12 should have got his attention . . .



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Old 09-11-2017, 07:39 PM   #24
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yeah - seems we may need at least a 28/30 ft just for our sheer size - my kids are young now (10 and 8) but we plan on using the airstream long after hte kids have left us! and also agree, don't want to keep changing sizes. not scared away yet from owning one of these things we have camped a lot in the past couple years in tents, and rented a class a motorhome this summer travelling across the upper peninsula of michigan. it is the combined experience of everything that makes us want our own trailer - we looked at airstream b/c of its reputation in the industry and the ability to last a long time. maybe we're going through a midlife crisis - but being out on the road gave us such a feel of freedom and adventure i want to capture it for many years to come! we met
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:41 PM   #25
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oh and to everyone who has been responsding with advice- i really do appreciate it - its so nice of everyone to take so much time in doing so! been doifng a lot of internet related research and this forum gives so much info - its great - gonna go next week to the dealer just to get a feel of the differnt styles/sizes and appreciate the advice about picking the trailer first before picking a TV - so we put the TV shopping on hold until we can finalize the trailer type!
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:49 PM   #26
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oh and to everyone who has been responsding with advice- i really do appreciate it - its so nice of everyone to take so much time in doing so! been doifng a lot of internet related research and this forum gives so much info - its great - gonna go next week to the dealer just to get a feel of the differnt styles/sizes and appreciate the advice about picking the trailer first before picking a TV - so we put the TV shopping on hold until we can finalize the trailer type!
We are doing this ass backwards and bought the tow vehicle first, but I already knew we were getting either a 25 or 27 so I bought the F150 (3.5 ecoboost with max tow package) that can haul about 11,000 lbs. The bigger issue was the tongue weight; an AS about maxes out a Ram (approx 800 lbs). Put a down payment on a 27 to pick up in about two weeks; will be our first trailer but we have also camped and stayed in trailers and I have towed a good-sized boat around a fair amount so hopefully it won't be too traumatic! Sounds like you are on a good path so good luck!

By the way, I've been AS obsessed for a couple of years and when I saw the movie "The Accountant" where he pulls a huge three-axle airstream with an F150 my first thought was "he should be driving an F250" :-)
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:26 PM   #27
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Looking for some friendly advice

The biggest issue with the F150 is payload, the max amount the truck can handle, including tongue weight. Yes it cantow a 10000 pound trailer, but with a 800 pound tongue, you will have around 1000 pounds or less (depending on the trim level), for cargo, which includes people and pets. So you won't have much left over for gear etc,

Pay attention to payload and make sure you don't underestimate your needs for hauling things in the tv.

For us, we have a 23D, four kids. Two are older so usually two younger ones, wife, and dog come in our Jeep Grand Cherokee. It tows well, but only people and pets in the vehicle or we are over the payload. We put everything we need in the trailer, in terms of gear.

What we miss are toys, like bikes, kayaks, generator, etc. I would kill for a truck and that extra payload, even that of the F150.

We can camp fine for now out of the trailer and jeep, but I am wanting a 2500 or F150 for the next vehicle, for the payload and ability to haul whatever we want....
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:01 AM   #28
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Ok, eight and ten years old is well out of the "infant" stage. You might as well look at this as being 4 adults. That's not quite true today, but it will be real soon now. You *could* try and stop feeding them .... it didn't work for us Way to many complaints ....

The whole tear down the beds / set up the beds thing is not that crazy. It works for many people. Some find it a pain. The FC 30 with bunks is the only thing I've seen in the AS lineup that gets you out of that. Is the upper bunk "big enough"? If so for how long? Only you can answer that.

This is a compromise no matter what you do. Comfort wise, the 30' wins pretty quickly with four people. That means being slightly more careful about sites. It may or may not impact your choice of destinations. Driving 20 minutes vs walking 5 minutes is a likely outcome. Not having that perfect view of the mist over the lake at 4AM is also a likely outcome.

If you have done the tent and general camping "thing" in the past, especially over several years, you know pretty well what you will run into. One thing to consider that is a bit new - Pulling a large trailer is tiring compared to tents in the back or a small popup. You probably will not be doing a 12 hour drive several days in a row. That impacts your ability to get to the Grand Canyon or the Florida Keys on a two week trip.

The kids are old enough that this should be a lot of fun for them. They soon will have friends that want to come along (like the day after you show them the trailer ....) . I'd plan on a "bunk tent" as part of the mix for some trips. I'd also say you are a a good point to do this, if you can afford it.

Have fun !!!

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