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05-25-2009, 08:59 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1977 31' Excella 500
struthers
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 7
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Hi All, I'm a new owner and have not stopped working on this thing yet!!!!
I think I have a new obsession. I paid $3000 for it and already stuck another $600 in it in two weeks.
right now I'm working on
wheel bearings (the previous owner had changed out the braking system from disk brakes to drum brakes and put the wrong size bearing in)
floor (replacing some soft flooring in the back bathroom)
brakes (one brake doesn't work, think its because the wheel bearing not sure yet)
furnace (haven't even looked at it yet)
door latch (no way of locking from the inside)
anybody have any information on where to get a service manual for a 77 excella 500 that would be great!!! I have the owners manual but the information in it is limited.
Thanks for reading
Dave
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05-25-2009, 10:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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There are several guys selling those on ebay and the like, but you can get it from the airstream website (the store) and I would guess any airstream dealer.
try this link, but if it doesn't work, go to the airstream store, then choose the airstream manual tab in the middle of the screen.
https://store.airstream.com/product_...products_id=96
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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05-25-2009, 10:16 AM
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Rivet Master
1993 34' Limited
Melbourne Florida
, Springfield Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 759
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Hello from Ohio and Florida and welcome to the forum. You will find your answers here.
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05-25-2009, 10:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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You work for the Government?
Willyd,
Your answer is something I'd see from the Government.
Blank, nothing, nada, nunca, nadie.
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05-25-2009, 10:47 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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There is a source called Secretarial Services in Ohio that sells photocopied service manuals. New ones are not available. From time to time you see used ones on ebay. If you see a used one close to your year it is probably close enough.
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Sail on silver girl. Sail on by. Your time has come to shine.
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05-25-2009, 11:03 AM
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#6
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4 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
Manchester
, New Hampshire
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davelance01
I think I have a new obsession. I paid $3000 for it and already stuck another $600 in it in two weeks.
right now I'm working on
wheel bearings (the previous owner had changed out the braking system from disk brakes to drum brakes and put the wrong size bearing in)
floor (replacing some soft flooring in the back bathroom)
brakes (one brake doesn't work, think its because the wheel bearing not sure yet)
furnace (haven't even looked at it yet)
door latch (no way of locking from the inside)
anybody have any information on where to get a service manual for a 77 excella 500 that would be great!!! I have the owners manual but the information in it is limited.
Thanks for reading
Dave
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OHHH I know the feeling I have not even got mine on the road yet and sunk about $5000 into her BUT it will be like new and the trailer was left to me by my dad . All new appliences front to back . Welcome to the forums .
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1976 Airstream Sovereign International Landyacht (renovating)(found DOM plate said 1976)
1968 Airstream Caravel 17 footer
2004 Nissan Titan with BT package
K/N Cool intake air
Duel power exhaust
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05-25-2009, 02:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1993 34' Limited
Melbourne Florida
, Springfield Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 759
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Melody Ranch, how did you know that I retired from ATF?
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05-25-2009, 04:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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Yup you got the fever,I just bought a gutted 63 GT,Things to do,rip up rest of floor,box out frame for 36 gal. black & gray tanks,install floor,clean and paint interior.Make cabinets Etc,Etc $$$$$$$$$$$.Have fun Dave
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05-25-2009, 07:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 31' Sovereign
Danielsville
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 904
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From my experience (2 restorations with varying degrees of severity), I can honestly say that $10K sounds pretty reasonable for a restored unit like what you have. Of course I never would have paid that much, but that's why I've logged all the hours underneath, inside, and on top of my Airstreams.
I can always earn more money (I think) but I cannot make up the time I've spent in the "labor of love".
There will be more money and hours spent, of that you can be sure!
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05-25-2009, 08:43 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
Manchester
, New Hampshire
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PizzaChop
From my experience (2 restorations with varying degrees of severity), I can honestly say that $10K sounds pretty reasonable for a restored unit like what you have. Of course I never would have paid that much, but that's why I've logged all the hours underneath, inside, and on top of my Airstreams.
I can always earn more money (I think) but I cannot make up the time I've spent in the "labor of love".
There will be more money and hours spent, of that you can be sure!
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Oh please 10 grand I am at 5 grand now BUT I bet ill put about 3 grand in labor into it. Thank god Airstreams are investments and not money pit's (I hope there not money pits) did I tell you I love my airstream I hope so..
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1976 Airstream Sovereign International Landyacht (renovating)(found DOM plate said 1976)
1968 Airstream Caravel 17 footer
2004 Nissan Titan with BT package
K/N Cool intake air
Duel power exhaust
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05-25-2009, 08:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Graham
, North Carolina
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 276
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new Airstream
Dave, you came to the right place to learn about your AS
Keep in touch and send a few Pictures
Take Care
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05-25-2009, 09:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 31' Sovereign
Danielsville
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 904
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Quote:
Oh please 10 grand I am at 5 grand now BUT I bet ill put about 3 grand in labor into it.
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Yeah, but sounds like you acquired it "right". I'm up to over $7500 (labor not included) with all new appliances front to back, new axles, wheels & tires but gave $2300 just for a straight, essentially empty shell (with rotten rear floor and rusty frame).
The value of the labor? Priceless!
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05-25-2009, 09:41 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
Manchester
, New Hampshire
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrcrowley
Oh please 10 grand I am at 5 grand now BUT I bet ill put about 3 grand in labor into it. Thank god Airstreams are investments and not money pit's (I hope there not money pits) did I tell you I love my airstream I hope so..
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pizza I am agreeing with you by the way...
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1976 Airstream Sovereign International Landyacht (renovating)(found DOM plate said 1976)
1968 Airstream Caravel 17 footer
2004 Nissan Titan with BT package
K/N Cool intake air
Duel power exhaust
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05-26-2009, 07:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 31' Sovereign
Danielsville
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 904
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Quote:
pizza I am agreeing with you by the way...
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Few end up with the Airstream of their dreams for less than $10K, but it's kinda like donating a few gallons of blood...
Measured by the pint, the cost doesn't seem as high...
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05-26-2009, 07:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,153
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Dave
Welcome to the Forums . If you get down and look closely at the inside of the door lock,I think you will find the locking bolt handle has either broken off or has vibrated out. Its only a 6/32 screw. I used an Allen head machine screw and loctited it in. Works for me.
There are a few Streamers in your area. I think you are in the NE. There is a thread here Either MID OHIO Streamers or Informal Something Lou or someone HELP ! We are tryin to get OHIO Streamers together this yr for a few Rallys Informal of course and everyone is Welcome,airstream owner or no. So someone will direct you to those threads I'm sure. You had definitely come to the rite spot to learn all about Airstreams.
Again WELCOME hope to see ya somewhere here this summer
Roger
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May your roads be straight and smooth and may you always have a tailwind!
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05-26-2009, 09:48 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1977 31' Excella 500
struthers
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 7
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Boy, that sure was quick on the replies from the forum, thanks , I'm going to run the hub up to bearing masters today and get the right set of bearings for the wheels.
The lock I'm going to remove and see whats up, I'm thinking that its something pretty simple, if not I will either order the new parts for it or cast my own I'm not sure which yet, I have a feeling that I'm going to run into some parts that I just will not be able to buy and I'll have to cast my own. I have a lot of prior experience in mold making and I think that will come in handy with this thing.
I'm not going to restore it to original, I'm going to make it my own. I do have plans however on polishing it (I know its a lot of work but I enjoy the work).
Thanks for reading
Dave
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05-26-2009, 04:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
Manchester
, New Hampshire
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PizzaChop
Yeah, but sounds like you acquired it "right". I'm up to over $7500 (labor not included) with all new appliances front to back, new axles, wheels & tires but gave $2300 just for a straight, essentially empty shell (with rotten rear floor and rusty frame).
The value of the labor? Priceless!
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That was not ment to be insulting just so you know it kinda sounded that way. I know I am at low end on renovation cost.
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1976 Airstream Sovereign International Landyacht (renovating)(found DOM plate said 1976)
1968 Airstream Caravel 17 footer
2004 Nissan Titan with BT package
K/N Cool intake air
Duel power exhaust
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05-26-2009, 06:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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Best way is to set a budget,then double it,and you may get it the way you like it.Dave
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05-26-2009, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.7 Metre
1989 29' Excella
Lorain County
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,246
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Ohio forums members
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikethefixit
Dave
There are a few Streamers in your area. I think you are in the NE. There is a thread here Either MID OHIO Streamers or Informal Something Lou or someone HELP ! We are tryin to get OHIO Streamers together this yr for a few Rallys Informal of course and everyone is Welcome,airstream owner or no. So someone will direct you to those threads I'm sure. You had definitely come to the rite spot to learn all about Airstreams.
Again WELCOME hope to see ya somewhere here this summer
Roger
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We do have a good group of Ohioans who have informal gatherings. We welcome everyone to come and camp, or just to drive in to one of our get togethers and spend some time with us. Besides which we usually give tours of our rigs. We LOVE to show them off! You are welcome to keep track of what is going on in OH. Here are a few links where we post to keep everyone up on what we are all doing.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f290...g-50587-6.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f288/mid-and-northeast-ohio-airstreamers-rally-at-west-branch-41872-15.htm
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f288...-41872-15.html
Larry and I have a 1979 Argosy Minuet 6.7 m. which we have been trying to update.. And we just got a "new to us" '89 Excella 1000 29 footer, which has been updated. We are working on some small stuff and are having fun camping this year. We do alot of driveway camping too and invite lots of folks to join us in our own backyard, where we offer courtesy parking. It is alot of fun. Hope to bump into you down the road.
Lou and Larry...sw of Cleveland by about 30 mi.
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05-27-2009, 06:17 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1977 31' Excella 500
struthers
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 7
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loudruff,
Nice to see I have friends I dont know about . Maybe in our travels we'll drop by and say hi.
Dave
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