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Old 01-10-2017, 02:52 PM   #1
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Hello from Long Island!

Hello everyone! I've been lurking for a while, trying to get the rotation of budget, need, towing vehicle and -most importantly- wife approval for a late model 25 > 28' AS.

I've three out of four of these accomplished (you clearly know which one is missing), so wanted to say "hello". I just missed out on the recent for sale listing of the 2011 28' Flying Cloud in NC (I would have driven overnight with cash in hand to get that!), but I'm pretty keen to get something by Spring!

Because I'm likely going to be doing any transaction across the US, I'm going to need to find some what to inspect the AS. Am I correct that there might be community members out there who can help in this process?

My TV is a 2012 Buick Enclave which I'll need to get a modified hitch \ load distribution depending on the trailer choice. Has anyone experience with local NY trailer\hitch specialists who can help me decipher the math to work out what I need to look out for? And given I'm not going to be schlepping over the Donner Pass, is there 'wiggle room' provided the TV and hitch\setup is solid?

Thank you - I look forward to sharing the story as it happens!

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Old 01-10-2017, 03:16 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, and good luck getting the fourth requirement accomplished!

In terms of inspectors, if you go up to the top left of this page, and click on the Portal tab, this page will appear:

On the middle of the right edge of the page is the area for finding an inspector, and a link for the inspection checklist:

Have you been down to Colonial Airstream in New Jersey to see all the various models of new and used AS? When we were in the market a couple of years ago, we went there more than once. There is nothing like sitting in each model, spending time with the fourth requirement, to get a sense of which is right for you.

We have found Patrick Botticelli to be very helpful. He is the main person doing the YouTube videos for Colonial, which are also a helpful tool in the search:

Good luck!


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Old 01-10-2017, 03:32 PM   #3
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An obvious question is: 2012 Buick Enclave..... What model, and what is the listed towing capacity for your vehicle? A quick search on the web says from 2000-4500 lbs.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:23 PM   #4
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Hello, Oliverr, greetings from central Kentucky and welcome to the forum.

Like Paulngina, I question the ability of a Buick Enclave to tow a trailer the size you are considering. With AWD your maximum is 4500 lbs. for a 2012 Enclave, considerbly lower than the curb weight on a 25-28' AS. I can't find your maximum hitch weight but I'd bet it's nowhere near what it needs to be. I think you need to upgrade your tow vehicle first.

Good luck in your search, be sure to get a couple of different opinions on the Enclave. Better safe than sorry. You need to do more than just pull, you need to stop and manage in crosswinds as well as emergency handling. You also don't want to destroy your tow vehicle.

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Old 01-10-2017, 04:46 PM   #5
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I've checked the data points, and indeed it looks unlikely that the Enclave (4500 max, GCWR of 9700lb) will be a suitable tow vehicle for that size. This might limit me to a 23-25. Thanks for the initial feedback
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:09 PM   #6
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I forgot to welcome you..... so.... Welcome!!!

You might (quite probably will) get varying opinions about the capabilities of tow vehicles (usually leaning toward a smaller vehicle "can do wayyyy more" than those pesky ratings say), but I would like to offer my opinion that you stay within the manufacturer's listed capacities... and not max out your vehicle. I do not subscribe to the "make it fit" suggestions.
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Old 01-10-2017, 06:24 PM   #7
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Welcome aboard from a fellow Lawn Guy-lander!

As others have said, you'll need to rethink the tow vehicle or trailer. We have a Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel which by the numbers is adequate for towing our 25 FB. The problem is payload: there was no capacity left for anything more than the driver in the Jeep when hitched up. While the Jeep does an admirable job of towing the 25 FB, we realized fairly quickly that we needed something bigger. We bought a RAM 2500, which some would say was overkill, but I just don't want to think about weight, payload, or anything like that again.

Obviously buying a new TV may not be possible, so you should look at a smaller Airstream. I wouldn't even go with a 25...tongue weight on the 25FB is up around 900-1000 lbs, likely more than your TV would be capable of handling.

Good luck in your venture!

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Old 01-10-2017, 06:47 PM   #8
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

Welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you wit us.

We have been Airstreamers for quite a while (11 years, 1,800 nights, 160,000 miles) and have had two 25FB's. Our trailers weight around 7,500# ready to camp.

A Buick Enclave is probably not a wise choice for a 25-28 foot Airstream.


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