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Old 02-02-2014, 09:59 AM   #1
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Hello AS world!

Well, we did it! After looking for several years for a used 25' we pulled the trigger and became the new owner of a 25' 2014 Flying Cloud. Here in upstate NY our season won't start till the snow and ice are gone, sometime in April or early May. We will be towing with a 2011 Dodge 2500 HD diesel. My first big question is about insurance. Are there insurance companies that deal specifically with AS trailers? If so, is there a specific company that someone would deal with or not deal with? Anything specific to look for in coverage, or certainly not omit? Second question concerns a hitch. I will need to have one installed. Any recommendations? Again, what not to do as much as what to do concerning the hitch. Thanks in advance for all the good advice. Been cruising this board for several years and its really great to be on board. Been a tough winter up here. Can't wait to get going. Jim & Jenny

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Old 02-02-2014, 10:16 AM   #2
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there are no doubt folks on here that will be much more knowledgeable about this than myself....but what surprised me with a few quotes was how progressive gave me a lower rate than my allstate folks did and the coverage was better.

In specific, their plan included either a 4 or 5 year (I cant remember exactly) time frame from buying new that if totaled the agree to provide you with an identical new model or if no longer available one of the same original brand new value...I forget the technical insurance jargon here...something like "total replacement value".....

This was huge for me, because it eliminated the concern about a total loss and being upside down with the loan....essentially built in "gap insurance" kinda....

Allstate vs. progressive was a no brainer for me in this case....lower premium, better coverage, and as I understand both companies are relatively experienced in AS claims...

I recall reading of some other companies on this forum that are less well known that gave competitive rates...

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Old 02-02-2014, 10:18 AM   #3
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Hey there Herkimer. I went to college in the Adirondacks and well know the seasons you folks have up there. You will find most likely that when in tow your Airstream is covered for LIABILITY by the tow vehicle insurance. That will cover the other guy. Now you need to cover your AS. We have ours added to our auto policy for collision and comprehensive damages and it costs about $250 / year additional. We have needed once and it covered damages nicely. The insurance company was eventually compensated by the " Other Guy insurance" and we got our deductible back. I'm sure you will find other options available but this one was quick, available and works well for us.

Regarding hitches, put your reading glasses on and get comfortable. You will find a lot of options and opinions and yes, some of them can get costly. There are many choices available and you will need to make a decision on your own. We tow with an Anderson Hitch and have been very happy with it.

Good Luck, See ya on the road sometime.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:45 AM   #4
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You will need insurance, I would recommend using your existing policy (if it is reasonable) because with insurance, it is typically cheaper to package all of your items together. If the insurance you have right now doesn't make you happy, right now is a perfect time to shop around and ask what kind of a rate you could get from other companies. It never hurts to ask. I have USAA, and I package everything (house, cars, trailer) with them.

Hitch- It will all depend on tow vehicle, tongue weight, trailer weight. You can over-do-it and you can under-do-it. Buy the right sized hitch for what you have. Research it out and listen to what other forum members say about their 25 footers..
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:25 AM   #5
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In addition to your basic insurance, you might look at products offered by the Good Sam club and probably by the AAA. They cover other issues that you might encounter while traveling, such as motel stays if your AS ends up in the local shop and you have to wait a couple of days for parts.

(As happened to our neighbours.)
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:13 PM   #6
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Slightly different topic, but I'd suggest you always carry a good supply of Herkimer Diamonds with you wherever you go, best barter material I can think of. Are you anywhere near the mine?
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:37 PM   #7
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Actually very close. Our home is less than 10 miles from the two major "mines". Carrying some "Herks" is a wonderful idea. FYI, there is a KOA across from one of the diamond mines and I have seen several AS there on occasion. Thanks for the idea. Jim & Jenny
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:42 PM   #8
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I had the same experience as Pharmgeek with insurance. We were already with Progressive for cars and boat, and couldn't be happier with "Total Loss Replacement/Purchase Price" that they offered. Our agent put in the sticker price from our new '14 (yikes) as a replacement amount..........

I am not involved with Progressive in any way, but I can tell you that I had an 11 year old outboard on my boat that had an electrical fire (wiring harness overheated) last spring and they fixed it on my boat policy with virtually no premium increase this year. Good enough for me.

Oh and yes there is plenty of reading here concerning hitches. My experience towing a Flying Cloud 27FB with an F150 that is properly spec'd for all tow ratings has been great with a new Blue Ox BXW1000. It tows perfectly level, puts the right weight back on the axles of the truck, is quiet, affordable, and easy to hookup. Whats not to like? With your truck, any quality hitch properly setup (and this takes some study to do right) should tow that 25 very well. Best wishes and welcome to the family!
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:49 PM   #9
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Progressive beat my Allstate Quote handily, like Pharma says.

Hitchwise, the Equalizer is a good option.

Try winter dry camping. Pretty darn fun, and you don't need to lose out on a few months.
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:43 AM   #10
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I towed our 25FB with a Hensley hitch home empty from the selling dealership behind a 2007 Mercedes ML320 CDI diesel. After crossing the scales camping ready, we were overloaded on the front axle and GVW of the Mercedes which resulted in a 2012 Ram 2500HD diesel.

Our original insurance was through Farm Bureau as they had all our other coverage. We then dug into the details and our contents in the trailer had coverage from the homeowners policy. Thus we would face two deductibles if there were a major incident and they did not provide replacement coverage. We went with a Good Sam policy on the trailer and the double deductible disappeared along with replacement coverage for many years.

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Old 02-06-2014, 04:56 AM   #11
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Thanks everyone. So far it looks like Progressive has the best comprehensive policy. The Total Lose Replacement clause is very desirable to me as a newbie! We finish paying for the FC, yet to be named, in 2 weeks. It stays at the dealership until the weather clears here in upstate NY and then we start. Never been so anxious for spring to come. JnJ
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:21 AM   #12
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Hi and welcome! I would suggest you call FCIS insurance in Forest City Iowa. They were 50% less than Progressive in my case.
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:27 AM   #13
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If you have USAA, try them. I have progressive through USAA (they don't want to mess with older trailers any more, I think, at least on new policies). I find my fulltimer's insurance rather reasonable.

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