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Old 02-06-2013, 11:13 AM   #1
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Getting our 1st Airstream, w/ a question

Hi all. Well, we are doing it. We finally have found an Airstream in great condition that is in our price range after keeping our eyes open for about 5 years. It's a 1964 Overlander that we are picking up for just $2700. I have not seen the inside, but I know the people with it and my 10 yr old was inside it a year ago. There are a few things wrong with it, like some plastic pieces that need replacing and the fridge might now work. Other than that & needing to be cleaned it's ready to use. As soon as I get my tax return we will be paying for it and towing it home. My boyfriend, Joe, has been wanting one since before I met him so that he could restore it and his 67 Suburban and do a camping motif at car shows. He also is going to take to the shows one of his 1969 Honda trail 90s hanging from the front of his Burb, a Honda generator from 1968, and some old fishing gear that was his grandfathers and is also from the 60s. We use our current pop-up camper at least 3 times a year going to rabbit shows, so it's going to get a good work out right off the bat.

My 10 yr old told me there is a dinette at the front of the camper and a couch right next to that with a couch in the bedroom that turns into a bed. I can only find pictures and blue prints of a couch in the front, not a dinette. Was this an option you could order? Or maybe someone had redone that. The current owners think it's all orginal, but maybe they're wrong. Thanks everyone.
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Unless it was a special order, most Overlanders had a couch in the front and either twin beds (one on either side) or a couch/double bed in the rear.

With that said, the "dinette" your son is speaking about could be nothing more than the foldout table that comes out from the wall to create an eating area (from the drivers side) that maybe to a 10yrs could look like a dinette.

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Howdy and to Airforums! We know you'll have many happy hours of fun with your new to you Overlander!

I looked through the photos for the '64 Overlander on Vintage Airstream, plus I found a sell-sheet for it on Airstream's website, but nowhere did I see one with what we call a dinette. That would be two benches facing each other with a table in between.

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My 10 yr old told me there is a dinette at the front of the camper and a couch right next to that with a couch in the bedroom that turns into a bed. I can only find pictures and blue prints of a couch in the front, not a dinette. Was this an option you could order? Or maybe someone had redone that. The current owners think it's all orginal, but maybe they're wrong. Thanks everyone.
I suspect that the front portion of the coach has been modified, or it could possibly be a Custom ordered coach from the factory. During this era, factory special orders were quite common with the "custom" touches being minor changes to major floorplan adjustments. So far as I have been able to determine, a dinette as we know them today, was not an official option in 1964. The front of the usual 1964 Overlander had a lounge across the front (converts to a "double" bed), a small drop-leaf dining table (portable so it could be used outside), and as was mentioned earlier either a pair of twin beds or a lounge (converts to "double" bed) located mid-ship. The floorplan that you describe sounds more like either an Ambassador, or more likely a Sovereign.

I have attached pdf files that illustrate the factor floorplans of 1964 Airstreams.

Good luck with your 1964 Airstream! I am sure that it will give you many years of enjoyment!

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I looked through the photos for the '64 Overlander on Vintage Airstream, plus I found a sell-sheet for it on Airstream's website, but nowhere did I see one with what we call a dinette. That would be two benches facing each other with a table in between.
She said it had 2 benches facing the table. I had thought maybe she was wrong. Maybe she just doesn't remember correctly either. Who knows. We will find out once we get it. Either way it's not a big deal to us. I do wish it had the twin beds instead of the double, but it is what it is and I'm not going to be upset one way or another. Just happy to have a silver twinky.
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I suspect that the front portion of the coach has been modified, or it could possibly be a Custom ordered coach from the factory. During this era, factory special orders were quite common with the "custom" touches being minor changes to major floorplan adjustments. So far as I have been able to determine, a dinette as we know them today, was not an official option in 1964. The front of the usual 1964 Overlander had a lounge across the front (converts to a "double" bed), a small drop-leaf dining table (portable so it could be used outside), and as was mentioned earlier either a pair of twin beds or a lounge (converts to "double" bed) located mid-ship. The floorplan that you describe sounds more like either an Ambassador, or more likely a Sovereign.

I have attached pdf files that illustrate the factor floorplans of 1964 Airstreams.

Good luck with your 1964 Airstream! I am sure that it will give you many years of enjoyment!

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Kevin,

We were orginially told by another friend that they thought it was a 30 footer. But after confirming with the owners it is a 26 foot Overlander (their words, lol) and is a 1964. No matter what size it is my Burb can pull it, so just as long as it will hold us and our 2 girls comfortably we are fine. I know an Overlander will do just that. I'm so excited, can't wait to get it home.
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Unless it was a special order, most Overlanders had a couch in the front and either twin beds (one on either side) or a couch/double bed in the rear.

With that said, the "dinette" your son is speaking about could be nothing more than the foldout table that comes out from the wall to create an eating area (from the drivers side) that maybe to a 10yrs could look like a dinette.

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She's convinced it's is a dinette. I even asked her if it looked like what's in our pop-up (a true dinette) and she says yes.
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Congratulations!! Can't wait to see photos of your new AS!
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Talked to the current owner yesterday. Seems my 10 yr old was wrong in more ways than one on the camper, lol. It has twin beds in the middle and a groucho in the front. It is all original and nothing has been changed. As far as the current owner, Pat, knows nothing has been removed either. He got the trailer after his grandmother passed away and never really wanted it. He has a boat to pull and it's impossible to pull both at the same time.

I've got a couple of wood workers that I will be checking out next year when we have the money and down time to do some resto work on it. I also need to decide what I want to do about the groucho. Keep it or replace with a dinette. Thoughts on that would be great.

I've started collecting some old kitchen items for it. So far we have: late 1950s electric toaster, early 1970s electric can open w/ knife sharpener, 1960s slow cooker in orange, 1960s Tupperware cups in a golden color, 2 1960s Tupperware bowls w/ lids in golden, 2 1960 pots one in green and one in orange, 1970s Reverware pot, 1960s electric hand mixer, and a single 1960s slotted serving spoon. Still have lots more to get. No idea where I'm going to find era correct bed sheets for it, lol.
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Me, I have green sheets in the Argosy that I found at Target, they're quite a passable 70s shade.

The folding couch in the front, by the way is a "gaucho" rather than a member of the Marx Brothers. I'm not sure the word gaucho makes any MORE sense, but that's what they call them.
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White sheets are timeless.

Me, I have green sheets in the Argosy that I found at Target, they're quite a passable 70s shade.

The folding couch in the front, by the way is a "gaucho" rather than a member of the Marx Brothers. I'm not sure the word gaucho makes any MORE sense, but that's what they call them.
Haha, thanks for the correction, going crazy with tax season and came here for a little break then the darn phone rings.

I might have to try that out. If not, I could see what the fabric stores have and see if I can find someone to sew them up for me.
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Oh, forgot to mention. He said it has all the orginal glass too, that none of it has ever been broken and it's the louver style glass.
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I like "Groucho" better than "Gaucho", but hey, it is what it is.

There have been several good threads where people removed the gaucho and put in a dinette. As long as it can be easily made into a good sleeping area, I don't see a negative on doing that. But like we're reminded in the saying "Man does not live by food alone", you do have to sleep as well. Gauchos are not famous for being comfortable as beds, so perhaps for that reason alone, you might be wise to try it.

From what I hear, it's really important to not cheap out on the foam.

First things first though: look for leaks first! You don't want your trailer to get wet inside while you're waiting to decide on the furniture.

Good luck, and enjoy your camper!
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