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Old 04-19-2006, 09:02 PM   #1
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Smile dual pane [PAIN] windows.

Hi. all:
My wife and I have had our 1975 31 foot airstream for about 20 years
we have pulled and lived in it a lot of states in my line of work coast
to coast I have replaced the hot water tank with a gas and elect.unit
and the flush and the refreg. and water pump and gas valve, have had
the furnace out two times { mud dabbers ya know } we have had
other R/Vs but would want no other than airstream.
Anyway I am now working on our duel pane side windows I have
found NO ONE that can help me and that includes Airstream SO if
any one out there can help you would make my day I have one apart
to replace the tint inside the outside glass but so far have have found
no gaskets or materal to put it togather.
later texman:
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Old 04-19-2006, 10:28 PM   #2
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How Did You Do It?

Texman,
How did you get it apart? A bunch of us eagerly await your answer. Until now, the solution has been to break the inner pane (pain).
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Old 04-19-2006, 10:48 PM   #3
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One of the things I did do on mine was to fix the thermo pain windows.
Do some searching around for windows or vista view and you should retrieve several posts that treat on this subject. Most of my windows were either cloudy or the tinting material was flaking off.
The Vista Views are the easiest. I took mine apart eliminated the plastic inner window and reglued the outer GLASS one in place with silicone after cleaning off all the old Vulkem sealer with paint thinner and using a razor blade to remove the plastic film from the glass.
The front center window I simply removed the entire assembly, removed the inner pane and reglued it into place with silicone.
The rounded corner windows were the hardest. I read here to first completely tape off the inner pane with duct tape then use an automatic center punch to SHATTER the inner pane. Then with a little elbow grease and some paint thinner clean the frame of all the broken glas and Vulkem. I then re glued the outer pane back into place with silicone. Make wedges to push the pane against the frame while the silicone dries. I left mine alone for a week.
3 years now and they look good, seal good and no leaks.
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Old 04-20-2006, 06:21 AM   #4
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Quick Caveat here! Jerry had the early style Vista Views that could come apart, the mid to late 1975 production vista views had to be taped and broken. Also be super careful with that center punch...I slipped on one of mine and that was $250
Texman, glad to hear someone has longterm usage from a 75 model...mine is still being rehabbed. We would love to see pictures, about everybody on this board seems to be a visual person

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Old 04-20-2006, 11:08 AM   #5
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why do you need to shatter the inner pane? according to my service manual (1973) they can be disassembled.

or perhaps this is one of the differences that Aaron had mentioned before, between '73 and '75. but they sure do LOOK alot alike..

is this the window you're talking about?

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Old 04-20-2006, 12:45 PM   #6
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Whoa there Pardner, hold on to that hammer

Howdi Tex, It's a little difficult for me to understand which windows you're talking about. Are you having problems reassembling the Vista views up on top of the camper? Or are you having trouble the wing windows on the front of the camper that Chuck shows a picture of?

Here's why I ask.

The VIsta Views on my camper can be easily taken apart and cleaned, then reassembled. As Pick stated, not all of them can be.

The WIng Windows in Chuck's picture can also be taken apart and reassembed (at least on Chuck's trailer and mine). Chuck and I have been discussing the proper way to do this, but have yet to hit a "truely good" method. I attempted to take the curbside window apart a couple of weekends ago, but I can't the screws to come out of the interior side of the frame. How did you do it?

As far as gaskets, etc. Both the VIsta Views and Wing windows on my trailer have an outer piece of glass that seems to be held in by Vulkem. Then some type of what I call "glazziers putty" is formed into a bead betweeen the outer pane and the inner pane. The inner pane goes in next (Plastic for the Vista views, glass for the wing windows). The the snap ring goes over the Vista view assembly, a rigid frame for the Wings.

If you've got pictures of where you are in the process, I'd love to see them. It'll really help us all out in the long run.


Here's the thread where Chuck and I were discussing this problem:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...art-21919.html

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have you tried an "easy-out" to get those screws outta there? I've had some success with those before.
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Old 04-20-2006, 04:58 PM   #8
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hi texman here
the windows I am working on are the side swing out ones I have heard
of the ones with screws but mine have rivets I drilled them out than pulled
the two halfs apart the two panes are glass they had a gasket around the
outer edge with a tinfoil and cloth like tape under that and between the
panes was a dum dum like stuff i used a sharp blade to part the panes
and clean them up but now i am told on materal to put them back in
i would like to keep my duel panes so i guess i,ll have to come up with
my own design wish me luck

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The WIng Windows in Chuck's picture can also be taken apart and reassembed (at least on Chuck's trailer and mine).
Here's the thread where Chuck and I were discussing this problem:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...art-21919.html

Jim
Looking in my 1975 Service Manual I came across this... I assume this means mine are different since thay say to take them out from the OUTSIDE.

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Sounds like Tex is talking about the windows next to the door, over the galley and the bedroom area. Tex, those windows down the side of my trailer are all single pane. So forget about everything I said.

Let us know how it comes out and throw in a few pictures. Good Luck with it.

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