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Old 11-04-2011, 01:05 PM   #15
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We started out tent camping. When we went to a trailer I wanted to buy only one. Airstream is the only brand we've noticed (they do have a distinctive shape) that is still in use after ten years on the road. It took some looking but we did find our trailer. '05 Classic S/O. We think we should be able to pass it on to the grandchildren.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:06 PM   #16
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One of the biggest issues I have is interiors. I don't want a travel trailer that looks like granny's house on the inside, and that seems to be the standard aesthetic model used by RV interior planners (I won't call most of the designers.)
This is the second, third, or more of this type statement made on the forums recently. I am not sure who made the others. I think I let the first ones go, even though one of them was pointed directly at Airstream Classic trailers.

A few points:

Everyone has different tastes. That is a good thing.

Things go much more smoothly if we do not take pot shots at each other's tastes.

A large percentage of RVs are bought by grannies and granpappies. That includes me.

Just because a design is not to your personal liking does not automatically disqualify the designer from being called a designer.

It is possible to state that something is not to your taste, without implying that there is something wrong with those who like it or are responsible for it.

I personally do not care for the interiors of the more modern Airstreams. I don't shop at IKEA, or care for that type of design. However I have no ill opinions of those that do, and if I did, I would suppress the desire to state them.

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Old 11-04-2011, 01:20 PM   #17
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I shopped for a decent ready to use trailer under 10 grand. There were a lot of them out there. I wanted to take a leisurely trip in the fall of 2010. Instead, I bought an older Airstream, cancelled the trip, cancelled all the trips this year, cancelled all the trips next year and spent equal to a new wood stick frame trailer on parts and interior items.

If I would have worked the Airstream hours on a regular paying job, I'd have made half a years wages.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:28 PM   #18
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I shopped for a decent ready to use trailer under 10 grand. There were a lot of them out there. I wanted to take a leisurely trip in the fall of 2010. Instead, I bought an older Airstream, cancelled the trip, cancelled all the trips this year, cancelled all the trips next year and spent equal to a new wood stick frame trailer on parts and interior items.

If I would have worked the Airstream hours on a regular paying job, I'd have made half a years wages.
I am curious. Would you do the same thing again if you had to do it over?

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Old 11-04-2011, 01:29 PM   #19
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I personally do not care for the interiors of the more modern Airstreams. I don't shop at IKEA, or care for that type of design. However I have no ill opinions of those that do, and if I did, I would suppress the desire to state them.

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That's exactly the kind of issue I was trying to avoid in my earlier post.

For me personally, the Airstream Classic interiors are not what I like, BUT I know many folks do and that's just as it should be. Fortunately Airstream does do alternative interiors, for people who like that sort of thing, which is a great selling point as far as I'm concerned, especially as a lot of SOBs don't offer much choice at all.

Beauty is, after all, in the eye of the beholder.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:40 PM   #20
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Just curious...

My wife and I decided once we wanted a trailer that it was Airstream or nothing. We never looked at any other brand, for us it was going to be an Airstream or we'd just continue using our class "B" that we traded in for the Airstream.

How about you - what made you buy an Airstream for your first trailer?

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Not to belabor the point, but I did not mention the Classic interiors nor did I mean them to be included in what I wrote. I feel that they are well-designed for someone else's taste, and built with good materials that go well together, but they don't appeal to me.

I don't know how many recent other-brand trailers you've been in, but between what I've seen in my search for a travel trailer for us late 2010/early 2011 and in my recent search for something good/used/large for my sister, I'm going to stand by what I wrote. There's a difference between well-designed but not to my taste and poorly-designed and/or thrown together out of a parts bin.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:47 PM   #22
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RV buyers who like "classic" (lower-case-c) interiors have plenty of choices. Those of us (me included) who want something more modern are left with few options. That's frustrating.

Are most RV interiors "designed?" I started to write some snobby comparsion between builder-"designed" colonial houses compared to my architect-designed late-50s mid-century-modern ranch. But then I stopped myself as the parallel doesn't work.

Your typical SOB has a mix of brown-plaids, fuzzy off-white curtains, vinyl faux tile, and pseudo granite-laminate countertops. I hate that. But the Serenity that I like (very, very much) is simply Airstream leafing through a Wilson Laminart catalog picking more expensive choices and putting them over existing International series cabinetry.

OK, there was quite a bit of design to begin with. Some AS floorplans are pretty innovative. But beyond that, heck, at least a Classic gets unique cabinets. In that vein, the first CCD trailers and the Winnick 75th anniversary trailers were "designed."

But back to the main question: despite a lot of soul-searching, we'll upgrade the Argosy with a newer Airstream. Nothing else tows like that, nothing else looks like that, nothing else has the long-term repairability (it's a hassle, but panel replacement is possible. Even if the company goes out of business, there's always sheets of aluminium). And I fully admit I'll put up with a lot for dual panaromic windows and Vista Views.

After all, if you're going to put up with some ownership headache - and all RVs provide it - might as well be for something you really like...

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I am curious. Would you do the same thing again if you had to do it over?

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I might buy an Airstream, but not one needing this much work. If I'd known I'd have 12-15 grand invested, plus all the hours, I'd just have looked for one closer to being ready to go and spent more at purchase time.

If I'd have known then what I know now, I wouldn't have bought this one.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:18 PM   #24
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Not to belabor the point, but I did not mention the Classic interiors nor did I mean them to be included in what I wrote. I feel that they are well-designed for someone else's taste, and built with good materials that go well together, but they don't appeal to me.

I don't know how many recent other-brand trailers you've been in, but between what I've seen in my search for a travel trailer for us late 2010/early 2011 and in my recent search for something good/used/large for my sister, I'm going to stand by what I wrote. There's a difference between well-designed but not to my taste and poorly-designed and/or thrown together out of a parts bin.
I understand. I did not think you were talking about the Classics. However someone recently in some other thread made the same "granny's living room" reference referring to the Classics' interior. Since I am married to a granny, that term pulled my chain.

Since neither of us are in charge of certifying designers, I can't argue with your stance on that.

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I am Class-ick deprived and as such have little appreciation for the excess, but for lack of that excess would not have the Classics' excess's....understand.

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I am Class-ick deprived and as such have little appreciation for the excess, but for lack of that excess would not have the Classics' excess's....understand.

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Old 11-04-2011, 03:26 PM   #27
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It took us over 7 years of shopping before we finally purchased our Airstream. Becky and I were avid tent campers who just got too tired of lugging all of the gear from the garage to the campsite, setting up/taking down the campsite in rain and storms and decided to look at Travel Trailers. We also started renting SOBs just to make sure we liked that style of camping before we sunk too much money into a TT. After a few years of looking (RV shows, Dealerships, etc.) and renting we both decided that what we really wanted was an Airstream. The hunt continued... and continued... We wanted to find a gently used late model Airstream and kept just missing out on the good deals, or would find an AS that just needed more work that we wanted to get involved with. Then I stumbled onto the Airforums site and looked in the classified section. After about a month we found our Airstream in a private party sale posted in the Airfourms. After checking out the AS and spending a couple of hours with the owner, we sent him out so my DW and I could discuss the purchase. Becky's response was "Duh... what are we waiting for!" and the rest is history. We have now had our trailer for ~5.5 months, driven over 5,500 miles, and spent more than 50 nights in it. She was worth the wait, and we can't wait for our next trip!
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The best designs are those which do not try to imitate something it is not, but express the true purpose of what it is. A travel trailer is not a Victorian house, so why should it attempt to look like one. It is not a race car or Cadillac. That is why we wrinkle our noses and find so many trailers unsatisfying, even disgusting.

Airstreams look exactly like what they are, aluminum travel trailers. The shiny metal, rivets, access doors all reinforce that impression. The Airstream interiors are a continuation of that impression, whether Classic, International, Flying Cloud, or vintage. When you step inside an Airstream, you know you are in a travel trailer. It does not try to hide that impression, its wood cabinets, aluminum walls, or dinettes look like travel trailers.

The company has done a good job over 80 years keeping its materials and classic styling consistent. There have been some recent imitators of the concept, such as Earthbound and Vantage, but they are unconvincing copies of the original. Perhaps, they could add fake rivets and paint them silver, but we will not be fooled. We bought Airstreams because they are the original. Some of us knew that from the get-go and never looked back.

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