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Old 06-13-2015, 05:02 PM   #1
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Hi Y'all. I'm Rocky, in N CA (for now). Retired USAF pilot/instructor; retired airline Captain/instructor. My family got our first little Terry Cruiser when I was in the 8th grade. Several trailers later, we ended up with a 28' Airstream pulled by an International pickup. I got a 20' Winnebago class A in 1972, then a 24' Pace Arrow. We now have a 33' Fleetwood Limited class A. I'm a bit tired of fixing SOMETHING at every stop. And missing out on trips altogether because the thing is dead in the driveway. Friends have a 25' Airstream and love it. On the way to a local dealer to start looking. We have a '14 GMC Yukon Denali to tow with. So I'm guessing that a 24-28' would be a reasonable starting area. Suggestions?
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Old 06-13-2015, 05:53 PM   #2
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Rocky, welcome. We have a 25' Flying Cloud, front bedroom. It works nicely!

Good hunting in your search for your Airstream!
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:34 PM   #3
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I have found 25' to be ideal. We favor camping in Forest Service CGs, State and National Parks and we have always been able to fit. Plus it's easy to tow and plenty roomy enough for the simple way we camp. We also stayed three months in a RV Resort one winter and didn't feel cramped. And we can tow it with our everyday SUV, a Mercedes ML500.

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Old 06-13-2015, 07:38 PM   #4
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As part of the fun, here is a link to download the 2015 model year Airstream Catalog:

http://colonialairstream.com/Airstre...el_trailer.pdf

The 2016 catalog is not out yet, but there is a new model - Flying Cloud 26U to look into.

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Old 06-13-2015, 08:57 PM   #5
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Welcome to Air Forums!

I tow a 2013 25FB Flying Cloud with a 2010 Yukon Denali (short wheelbase version). I have had the combination for two years and 13,000 miles, and about 200 nights on board. I consider the Yukon a good match for the 25 foot trailer. I would would want a higher-capacity tow vehicle for a 30 foot Airstream.

I think the Yukon Denali has a good amount of power for the job. There are passes in Colorado where I can't maintain the speed limit, but I'm OK with that. The coolant and transmission temperatures I see on those climbs make me a bit nervous, but I think that's OK because the extremes only happen for a few minutes, a few times a year.

Be aware that for many people, the limiting factor for towing is not the tow vehicle's rated towing capacity, but rather the tow vehicle's payload. Some Airstream models have a high tongue weight for their size. And that's for the base model. Options usually increase the tongue weight, and so does water and everything else that gets loaded into the trailer. My 25FB is listed by Airstream as having a tongue weight of about 840 pounds. With our stuff on board it got to about 950 pounds. Then I added two more awnings, solar panels, and an inverter/charger. I'm over 1000 pounds now. With two adults and various gear in the back, I'm running at 120 pounds under the Yukon's GVWR. (and I have removed my third row seat, which weighs about 110 pounds). So in terms of GVWR, the Yukon works for two people, but would not work for a big family.

My Yukon's receiver has a label that says it is rated for 1000 pounds (when a weight distribution hitch is used), and my owner's manual says the vehicle is rated for 1100 pounds tongue weight (which seems odd). I believe for 2014, the owners manual and receiver sticker both say 1000 pounds. There are some people on the Forums who have tongue weights on their trailers around and even over 1200 pounds. That pushes some people into 3/4-ton tow vehicles. I had the receiver on my Yukon reinforced by a shop that specializes in upgrading tow vehicles. The modification consists of two pieces of angle iron welded to the back of the receiver.
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Thank you switz! The link worked really well. I'm looking primarily at the 27' Eddie Bauer to get the twin beds up front and the openiing hatch in the back. Or the 27' FB International Serenity. As an aside, what is WBCCI?
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Thank you, SSquared! I'll have the local Airstream dealership check my hitch. I'll probably buy a top-line equalizing hitch from them regardless of what trailer I buy. The salesman I talked to said that my Yukon would handle any trailer on the current pproduction list, up to the 31 footers. But I WILL watch the tounge weight closely!
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:52 AM   #8
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Welcome and thanks for your USAF service. The 25' AS is the most popular, to the extent that AS sells more of the 25' than all other sizes combined. If you don't want to trade tow vehicles my opinion is 25' would tow well behind your GM and you would enjoy the unit. We opted for the 30' as we like the additional space and separate dinette area from the "living" area, where we have two lounge chairs.

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Old 06-14-2015, 07:42 AM   #9
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Hi Rocky. Welcome back. If you decide to go with the 27' EB, paying the up charge for the twins, let me know. My wife and I just went through the process or ordering and receiving that same configuration, and there were a few decision points along the way of having twins installed that I'd be happy to share with you. Best, Joe
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Old 06-14-2015, 07:48 AM   #10
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Welcome aboard!

Sounds like a good match for tow vehicle and glider!

Check your weights and balance!!!! Plenty info here on "scales" use and application.

Edit... Remember, you are your own Loadmaster!
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The supply of the last new Eddie Bauer models is rapidly decreasing. What is on the line and in the existing order que is all the replenishment there will be since it is discontinued this year. If the OP wants one, he needs to get with it quickly.
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I like the 27' Eddie Bauer very much. It is about $10,000 more than a 27' Flying Cloud, which are the bargains of the Airstream line-up. For the same money choose a 27 EB or a 30 FC.

The new 26U models are interesting and will be arriving shortly at dealerships, this could be a very popular model. U-shaped dinette is better seating than the present dinette benches, and is in the front of the Airstream which is he most versatile arrangement in our experience.

Beware of sideway or corner bed models, some people don't like them. Fore/aft queen beds are available in 27' and up, and twin beds are available in 25' and up.

Those are a few general opinions, after our first Airstream we chose a 25' FC (smallest of the big Airstreams) Front Dinette and converted it to recliner seating. We have the queen bed because that's how we like to sleep; as we get older we can easily convert the sideway queen to twin beds.

We are both retired Navy, retired from other jobs folks who enjoy extensive travel, sightseeing with our Airstream. On the road traveling and snowbirding 6-7 months for each of the last 7 years. Our 25' Airstream, Pro-Pride hitch and Ram 1500 work very well for this lifestyle.
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Old 06-19-2015, 09:29 AM   #13
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Hey, Fred, where did you go? Buy that AS yet?
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