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Old 02-22-2017, 05:31 AM   #15
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Great find! Good deals are not unheard of on used trade ins at dealers, they just get snapped up right away. Our 08 Classic was a trade in to Reliable, in Springfield MO. We were at the right place at the right time to snag it. Welcome to the Airstream life, and consider joining the Owners Club at www.wbcci.org. The best friends you haven't met yet!
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:01 PM   #16
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TVK: I have found two buyable used Airstreams in Florida at dealers. The 2014 FC25FB Queen I have the contract on and a 2015 FC25FB with twin beds. So there are a few out there, but I was lucky to find the exact one I wanted at a price I thought was fair. Oh I think there are two 23' late model used ones available as of yesterday too.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:46 AM   #17
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Final Chapter:

My wife and I decided to buy a 2017 FC25FB to get ducted air rather than buying the used 2014. To make this more affordable, we decided to sell our old Casita on our own. With the extra dollars from selling our Casita and tough negotiating on the 2017, we were able to buy new for about $12,000 more than buying the used 2014.

And now the best news. Our dealer just called and our new Airstream is here! We will be on our way shortly to see it. And yes, there will be pictures posted.
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:05 PM   #18
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:21 PM   #19
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We preferred the Gold Alchemy: Cashew with Golden Night decor. Luckily, we got our dealer's last unit with this decor and were told it is now discontinued.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:41 PM   #20
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It Home!

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Old 04-27-2017, 07:01 PM   #21
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Congratulations on your new baby. My guess is that you will get about 14mpg. I say that based on MANY polls and posts on diesel towing and gas towing. Various makes models and setups all seem to get about the same - 12mpg gassers and 14 mpg diesels, AVERAGED that is. Yes, if I were buying today, I would consider the used versus new price and the ducted option too. When I purchased I had a choice between a year newer 25SE with a dent or a 25 (they were parked right next to each other). The SE had a large crater dent in the lower back corner and they wanted $12, 000 more for it. I chose to save and get the other one despite obvious differences. I do not regret that move at all. It is good to make your mind up before buying. Buying used is often harder IMO because usually you are making compromises or have hurdles to get over like dented panels or other damage that make the decision more complex but, there are also rewards either way.
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Old 04-27-2017, 07:28 PM   #22
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Congrats, our search continues for a good used unit
I wish we could afford a new one
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:06 PM   #23
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What's the 6000 mile trip? Tampa to the Great lakes area. Going to spend time in Northern Wisconsin and Minnesota. Camping along the St. Croix River and the North Shore of Lake Superior. Planning a short trip up into Canada. Then probably take the long way home to Tampa from there.

Great first trip in your new, to you AS. You may have already done the Superior loop, but if you haven't, you may want to spend a night or three in Sleeping Giant NP up by Thunder Bay. The hike to the top is fairly strenuous, but worth it.
Enjoy your new AS, and Titan.

Edit, I see you went with a new one. Great job, on the negotiating! Looks good behind your new truck. Here's to many great adventures!
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:04 PM   #24
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We spent three nights in our new FC25FB. The only real surprise was the power management needed with the larger draw items in an Airstream. We popped the 30 amp main on the pole several times until we figured out the hot water heater was running in electric mode. You can overload 30 amps fairly easily when that 15000 BTU AC starts up.

The only other surprise was that I re-engineered the window rockguard attachment hardware. Three of the four broke when we decided to wash the windows. I drilled out the rivets on the screw mounts, inserted a stainless bolt through the old bracket, held it in place with a locknut, and re-rivited the mount back in place. This gives me a through-bolted mount for the rockguards. Then I removed the old attachment screws from the rockguards, slipped them over the through bolt and added another locking nut to hold the rockguard. Now I can wash the windows. I basically made the window rockguards attach in the same way as the steel rockguards.
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:16 PM   #25
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Here are before and after pictures of the rockguard attachment points.
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Having recently done my research into a new TV to replace my lightweight Frontier, I will tell you that you picked the BEST TV in the Titan! Mine is on order!
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:55 AM   #27
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Congratulations on your new baby! We are on our 3rd 25' AS, and love it...looking at what number 4 will be; a 2017 or 18 25 or 27' Twin FB. Please let us know how your new Nissan does if you don't mind posting...mpg, likes/dislikes, and recommendations. Very interested in how this beast is for daily and towing use.
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Nissan Titan XD Diesel 4x4 upate

Here's an update for those commenting on my truck. Yes, this Nissan Titan XD with Cummins 5.0 is a tow beast! It pulls the Airstream very easily even though I am nearly at its 1500# payload limit.

Let me give you some of my towing background. I've been towing heavy boats, campers and construction equipment for over 40 years. I've towed hundreds of thousands of miles with almost every Ford vehicle that had a hitch including E350, F250 Diesel, F150 (5.8, 5.0, Ecoboost), E150, Crown Vic and Taurus. I've recently owned and towed with most capable Nissans including Titan XD Diesel, Frontier and Pathfinder (CVT). I towed extremely heavy construction equipment daily for six years.

With that towing background, let me give you my thoughts on my Titan and the other vehicles with which I've towed. Towing with the Titan Diesel is shockingly similar to my recall of towing construction equipment with my F250 Diesel. Effortless acceleration with a relaxed feeling. Not pushing the engine or transmission at all. These diesels are made to work and shine while towing heavy trailers. I believe the Nissan's 5.0 fuel mileage is similar to the F250's but better than the Ecoboost. Now the Ecoboost with the twin turbos was also a torque monster, but it used more fuel than the diesels both while towing and not towing. The Ecoboost had wheel squealing acceleration and was more fun to drive while not towing. But because you had that power, it was hard to keep your foot off the gas.

I loved my Nissan Frontier while towing my 17' Casita. It was excellent with the 3000# trailer but I would not want to tow more, even though its rated to tow significantly more. I'm talking about towing across the country, not a hundred miles here and there. You could tow anything a short distance. I got 16.5 MPG while towing my Casita with the Frontier but fuel economy could fall to 13.5 MPG with a stiff headwind. The Titan Diesel got the SAME fuel mileage pulling the Casita as the Frontier. The Titan Diesel fuel mileage is also greatly affected by headwinds. I have not towed the Airstream enough to tell you what MPG I get towing, but I believe it will be around 12 on a long trip. Non-towing the Titan Diesel can get over 20 MPG on the highway and gets 16 MPG on mixed urban traffic with stoplights and traffic backups.

Let me talk about the Pathfinder CVT. I towed my Casita with it and would not recommend it for long trips. It revved and got about 10.5 MPG on the highway and the rear suspension sagged and was squirrelly while being passed by other vehicles. Not comfortable at all.

Bottom line, I love the 5.0 Cummins diesel for pulling the Airstream. It is perfectly sized for the application. One thing to watch for on the Titan XD is payload. I have the Platinum Reserve 4x4 model with the lowest payload available. The DOT sticker says 8950 GVWR and it weighs 7450 with full fluids, no passengers and no cargo. Therefore, I have 1500# of available payload. So watch the payload number if you are shopping for a new truck. Here is a copy of my CAT scale ticket weigh taken on my way to the campground this weekend. I'm within 100# of payload, but below GVWR, GAWR and GCWR. I just loaded everything into the truck and trailer that I had in my Casita. No attempt was made to adjust the load since I was not exceeding any weight rating. My previous posts in another thread included the CAT scale tickets for truck only and truck/airstream without WDH engaged if you want to see them.
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