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Old 11-02-2013, 08:07 AM   #15
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Ok, yesterday I added a brake controller to my rig and got into quite a discussion with the hitch folks that wanted me to purchase a curt wd system. He also stated that I most likely wouldn't need antisway.

My situation is that I don't have the trailer yet and whatever solution I get most be able to be installed easily on the trailer under less than ideal conditions. My thought at present is to wait till I pick up the trailer in NW PA then once under way make the decision whether a WD is required to complete the trip or not. I don't have money to burn so I'd prefer that I get what I really need and am not stuck getting a WD that I ultimately won't want to keep. Any thoughts as to a WD that I'll be happy with that I could install easily on the trailer?
You can get away with not having anti-sway but you do need a WD hitch. You've got quite a long haul with that rig and unless your tow vehicle is supersized (ford f250/excursion, Chevy 2500/3500) then the trailer will have too much effect on the TV to safely tow it, especially if you are going over some mountains to get home. If you are not familiar with why WD is necessary, there was a good discussion here not too long ago or you can google it. It's really not optional. Have you asked the PO what type of setup they used to tow it at all? Does it still have parts of the WD setup attached to the front frame? That might help in your decision.
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:35 AM   #16
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Razinni,

From the posted eBay photos, it looks like there's a rusty WD system dangling under the front of the trailer. If the PO is including it, perhaps the RV dealer can take a look at it and see if it's adequate to get you home?

Welcome to the forums and to Airstreaming. It's a great community with folks always willing to help.

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Old 11-02-2013, 10:00 AM   #17
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A few common sense suggestions. You need to find a good recommended RV service shop somewhere close to where this trailer is located. Post a new thread. Airstream service recommendations Slippery Rock PA and/or surrounding area. Hopefully there are others on the forum that can suggest a service shop that they use for their Airstream. Then you have a starting point to get this trailer back in some form of towing condition. Good luck
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:10 PM   #18
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It looks like it does have the bars and chains still attached, you may just need the appropriate hitch head with ball or they may have that kicking around somewhere too. After all, the PO is going to tow it over to the RV dealer so he has to have something to do that with.

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Old 11-02-2013, 03:53 PM   #19
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Congratulations and good luck! Our first Airstream was a '77 31ft International.
You will probably find more wrong than you think when you get it home. At least we did. However, we had fun with it and never regretted buying it.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:18 AM   #20
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Ok, yesterday I added a brake controller to my rig and got into quite a discussion with the hitch folks that wanted me to purchase a curt wd system. He also stated that I most likely wouldn't need antisway.

My situation is that I don't have the trailer yet and whatever solution I get most be able to be installed easily on the trailer under less than ideal conditions. My thought at present is to wait till I pick up the trailer in NW PA then once under way make the decision whether a WD is required to complete the trip or not. I don't have money to burn so I'd prefer that I get what I really need and am not stuck getting a WD that I ultimately won't want to keep. Any thoughts as to a WD that I'll be happy with that I could install easily on the trailer?
Please do not buy the Curt WD/anti sway hitch. It is junk. We bought 10 of them for cargo trailers at work. In a matter of weeks, all but 1 was broken. It is a poor, hard to use design.
From what I have seen, Blue Ox is junk, also- the same little latches to hold the bars in as the Curt- hard to use and break real easy.
I had an Eaz-Lift- I sold it- it was a good, reliable hitch.
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:14 AM   #21
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Just contacted the PO and I'm about to schedule my trip. I've got all the info I need on WD he does have some parts so I'm going to go up without it pre-installed and get to the first available place to put one on. I went out and looked at my door stickers on the Suburban just to make sure that I wasn't going crazy.

GVWR 3176KG / 7000 lbs.
GAWR (Frt) 1452 KG / 3200 lbs.
GAWR (RR) 1814 KB / 4000 lbs.

Rear Axle 3.73 Ratio

Trailer towing capacity (2WD) 3210KB / 8400 lbs.

My model is a C15906 with the Trailering package which included a transmission oil cooler and a 7000 LBS GVW Rating. I'm still not sure whether my springs will be adequate or not.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:12 AM   #22
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Just to be complete the trailer itself should weigh as follows

1973 SOVEREIGN INTERNATIONAL LY 31 REAR BATH TWIN
5005 lbs. dry wt.
485 lbs. hitch wt.
19.5" ball ht.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:49 AM   #23
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Just to be complete the trailer itself should weigh as follows

1973 SOVEREIGN INTERNATIONAL LY 31 REAR BATH TWIN
5005 lbs. dry wt.
485 lbs. hitch wt.
19.5" ball ht.
Hi - does that include furniture, appliances, clothes, freshwater, etc? I believe the 70's were lighter, but you'd still want to know what it actually weighs on cat scales when fully loaded for camping to be really sure.

My 27 comes in camp-loaded at 5880 on the scales. Tongue weight is about 1100 (though the marketing materials say it's less than 800....).

I'm guessing a 31 footer has to come in above 6000 and that tongue has to be over 800. But guessing won't help you much :-)
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Just a note. Most hitch receivers have two ratings. One is called weight carrying and the other is weight distribution. The receiver will have a manufacturer's sticker with these ratings. When towing without weight distribution hardware you will find that your receiver may be rated for less weight than the hitch weight of your trailer.

For example I have a Class V hidden hitch on my van. It is rated for 1,200 lbs weight carrying, and 1,400 lbs weight distribution. If I tried to tow without my weight distribution hardware, my Classic SO would exceed the weight carrying capacity of the receiver.

Use caution before towing without weight distribution equipment to make sure your trailer's hitch weight does not exceed the capacity of the receiver.

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Old 11-03-2013, 06:24 PM   #25
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Thanks to everyone for making me feel so welcome. I'll make sure that I add the appropriate WD system before embarking on this long journey. I feel like I'm now officially introduced to the group so, I'll start a new thread in the correct forum once I start the journey if it turns out to be of any interest. Candidly I hope NOT to have anything to right about.

If its of interest I will share what I find with the new rig and any technical details about the trip which might be helpful to others.

Otherwise, assume no news is good news.

Thanks again to everyone for your responses.

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Old 11-03-2013, 08:18 PM   #26
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Greetings Razinni!

Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage Airstream ownership!

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Thanks to everyone for making me feel so welcome. I'll make sure that I add the appropriate WD system before embarking on this long journey. I feel like I'm now officially introduced to the group so, I'll start a new thread in the correct forum once I start the journey if it turns out to be of any interest. Candidly I hope NOT to have anything to right about.

If its of interest I will share what I find with the new rig and any technical details about the trip which might be helpful to others.

Otherwise, assume no news is good news.

Thanks again to everyone for your responses.

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In observing the photos in your link, I am fairly confident that the trailer has the "classic" Reese Dual Cam Sway Control hitch. Should this be the case, you will have both weight distribution and sway control. I have this setup on both of my coaches and have been thoroughly pleased with its performance. The new Reese weight distribution bars that have a down-turned "beak" will work with the saddles on the classic Dual Cam Sway Control, but you may need to adjust the brackets forward or rearward on the hitch for proper operation (the sway control arms attach to the Airstream's hitch with two or three U-bolts so the nuts must be loosened and the brackets can be easily moved (directions for installation/adjustment of these brackets are readily available on the Internet). If the owner is including the weight distribution bars, they may be original to the coach and may have been set up for towing with a full-size 1970s family sedan rather than a pickup/sport utility, etc. The problem with the weight distribution bars for a 1970s family sedan is that they are likely 1,000 pound bars which will be too stiff for proper operation of the Reese Dual Cam system with a truck-based tow vehicle. With a truck-based tow vehicle, you will likely need either 600 or 700 pound weight distribution bars . . . I use 600 pound bars with my Overlander (750 pound hitch weight) when towing with my K2500 GMC Suburban.

Enjoy your adventure and your newly acquired Airstream!

Kevin!

P.S.: I have been on several excursions to retrieve recently purchased Airstream/Argosys, and the following link is to an article that I wrote regarding some hints that I have learned from those experiences.
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I would add a ton of patience and a Bible to the list of items to take. Keep your speed down while you learn how your TV handles the load, and leave twice as much room in front of you as you normally do. Most of us need a little time to travel the learning curve....
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:33 AM   #28
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Razinni, Congratulations on your new adventure. Condo has a good list of things to take. If it doesn't come with a Weight distribution hitch and anti-sway, you will need one for the drive back to ATL. Also, you will need the brake controller mentioned. This is a separate piece of equipment installed in your Suburban. Having the factory tow package does not ensure that one is installed. Without one, the brakes on the trailer won't work.

There is a very robust and active Airstream group here in GA. Please consider joining us at one of our campouts/rallys. You will find a bunch of people who love Airstreams and are very willing to help with questions and repairs. You can find us on the web at Southeastern Camping Unit (012) | Moving WBCCI Forward!
Ok I got my trailer and suffered some damage on the trip. Who near Atlanta does any kind of insurance work on Airstreams. Specifically outer skin repair.
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