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10-01-2007, 11:32 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Bellingham
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2007
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1948 #1118
Hi all, I just purchased a 1948 liner #1118. anone got any info about this one? I have some pictures if I can find out how to post them.
Ron
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10-01-2007, 11:37 AM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
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Sounds NEAT! To post a picture click on the little box on the reply box that has the mountian and sun icon.
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10-01-2007, 12:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
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Fred is the historian for vintage Airstreams. He's a fountain of information. If he's not on the road, he'll be responding. His forum handle is "Wee Wind"
Tracy
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1989 345 Motorhome
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10-01-2007, 01:06 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,618
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Check this link out:
48Liner
Your Airstream may have been made at the Van Nuys airport. It is a pipe frame and a real classic!
We want pictures!
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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10-01-2007, 01:20 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Bellingham
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
Check this link out:
48Liner
Your Airstream may have been made at the Van Nuys airport. It is a pipe frame and a real classic!
We want pictures!
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it has 1755 North Main street Los Angeles on the tag, with model number 4311 and serial number 1118.
I can't seem to find out how to post pics to this forum. I do not have a web page , just pics on my hard drive. Not sure how to transfer them from my hard drive to the forum. Any help?
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10-01-2007, 01:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
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10-01-2007, 01:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Wiebe
it has 1755 North Main street Los Angeles on the tag, with model number 4311 and serial number 1118.
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Hi Ron:
On a closer inspection it's probably model number 4811, meaning it was built in January 1948. The "8" may have been stamped off kilter and so might look like a "3" at first glance. RJ's web site noted by Azflycaster is the best source of online information, but a recent back issue of the VAC's "Vintage Advantage" magazine has an article about the 1947-50 Liners (round ended pipeframe Airstream trailers). Congratulations on a neat find!
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Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
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10-01-2007, 01:54 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Bellingham
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16
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It does look as if it could be an "8". What does the 11 after the 48 mean? is it the month and day? When did they move to this location? Any idea of the serial number that started at the 1755 north main street location?
I'd post pictures but still can't figure out how to do it. It says my photo's are too big. not sure how tomake them smaller.
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10-01-2007, 02:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Wiebe
I'd post pictures but still can't figure out how to do it. It says my photo's are too big. not sure how tomake them smaller.
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Try this: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f137...res-35871.html
Shari
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10-01-2007, 02:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Wiebe
It does look as if it could be an "8". What does the 11 after the 48 mean? is it the month and day? When did they move to this location? Any idea of the serial number that started at the 1755 north main street location?
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Hi Ron:
Model number 4811 decodes are follows:
"48" = year of manufacture.
For 1948, the 1st "1" = apparent place holder with undiscovered and unknown meaning.
For 1948 , the second "1" in your model number = month of manufacture. 1948 went through "3", or March, then Airstream ceased using the "model numbers" which, to me, indicate the year and month of manufacture.
For 1947, the meaning of the 3rd and 4th place digiits appeared to have been switched, with the last digit "1" being the placeholder. See here: 47Liner
Airstream moved from the Van Nuys Airsport to 1755 No. Main Street around December 1947 or January 1948, and at least by January 1948 as your VIN tag shows. I don't know which serial number first revealed that address change. We need more data points, so keep looking for more Liners.
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Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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10-01-2007, 03:50 PM
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Silver Hilton
1959 24' Tradewind
Astoria
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 227
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Fred -
The '47 Liner I recently saw had the original tag next to the door:
Model 4791 Serial 1035
Built by Wallace M. Byam
Metropolitan Airport
LA, California
So they were still at the airport in Sept 47.
Mark
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10-01-2007, 04:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Wiltrakis
Fred -
The '47 Liner I recently saw had the original tag next to the door:
Model 4791 Serial 1035
Built by Wallace M. Byam
Metropolitan Airport
LA, California
So they were still at the airport in Sept 47.
Mark
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Mark:
Thanks for that data. Your example illustrates the model number third digit was the month during 1947, but I'm pretty sure during 1948 the month moved to the last or 4th digit, such as in model number 4813 for "March 1948".
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Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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10-01-2007, 05:31 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Bellingham
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16
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thanks for the pictures lesson. hope these upload .
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10-01-2007, 05:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Atta Boy!
Looks like you figured out the pictures and I'm glad you did... nice trailer!!!
Shari
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10-01-2007, 05:37 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Bellingham
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16
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Fred , Thanks for the info, The serial number is sequential starting from 1000? So mine is the 118th airstream liner made since the beginning? Has someone been keeping track of the trailers found so far?
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10-01-2007, 05:38 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Bellingham
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16
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thanks Shari.
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10-01-2007, 05:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Airstream310
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2007
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AAAAUUUUGGGGHHH that is so dang cool!
Hi, I'm Susan. You will soon see I am attracted to things that are unique and unusual (my poor hubby puts up with me, what a sweetheart!), and yours sure is! What a neat trailer. Thanks for posting the pics!
Good luck with it, and post pics of the things you do to it. We all love pictures here.
Susan
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10-01-2007, 06:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
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Oooo! Thanks for taking the time to figure out picture posting.
Ron, that is so TOTALLY awesome!!! Congratulations on your find, it's just so cool that it's hot! It looks to be in remarkable shape for a '48.
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10-01-2007, 06:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Wiebe
Fred , Thanks for the info, The serial number is sequential starting from 1000? So mine is the 118th airstream liner made since the beginning? Has someone been keeping track of the trailers found so far?
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Hi Ron:
The serial numbering is sequential for each different length model during the late 1940s. The 22 foot long Liners began at serial number 1000 or 1001, I don't know which. So your 22' Liner is the 119th or 118th 22' long Airstream Liner built after WW II. The 28' long Whirlwinds had the 2000 series serial numbers, the 16' Wee Winds had the 3000 series serial numbers, and the 19' (then 18') Trailwinds had the 5000 series serial numbers. Each X000 series is numbered sequentially.
I'm not aware of anyone keeping a close count of all different length Liners, but I have written down all the 16' Wee Wind serial numbers I've come across only because I own one. Maybe someone has done that for the 22' Liners. Many, but certainly not all, 22 foot Liners appear on R.J Dial's web site cited earlier.
Great trailer, have fun with it!
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Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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10-01-2007, 08:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,102
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more pics, different trailer-'47
Found this trailer hidden behind lots of others in Tucson at Oasis RV
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1989 345 Motorhome
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