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Old 03-10-2011, 10:39 PM   #15
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Really?

My 30' Classic came with vinyl from the entry door to the bedroom, love it! Love the soft leather...with or without pants! My single 15000 BTU A/C does a great job making the trailer comfortable in the 108 degree heat of Las Vegas in July and the queen bed is perfect....personal preference.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:38 AM   #16
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It's an option that costs around $100 or so.
What is this CSA? Where can it be found for an older trailer?
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:32 PM   #17
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The CSA is an organization in Canada that sets standards for gas appliances. In the U.S. we have the AGA and the RVIA.

If the trailer is CSA approved it will so state on the nameplate next to the VIN, I believe.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:52 PM   #18
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Protective covering over gas lines:

I think it's a good feature to have as it can prevent pin holes and dents in the gas lines from kicked up gravel under the trailer.
My 87 Sovereign came with a gray plastic (nylon tubing) covering the gas lines. Is this what you are refering to? When I replaced a section of the tubing I found it to be gray electrical conduit. I'll have to check my 2010 to see if it has that tubing covering the lines. I didn't ask for it as an option. To be honest, I never gave it a second thought till now.
Jammer, did your new trailer come with it?
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Old 03-11-2011, 03:38 PM   #19
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No, I wasn't aware of what the CSA stuff meant so I didn't order it.

I understand that they use PEX now instead of conduit although I would think that either would work equally well. I suppose the PEX would have somewhat less tendency to become brittle over the course of year.
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The CSA is an organization in Canada that sets standards for gas appliances. In the U.S. we have the AGA and the RVIA.

If the trailer is CSA approved it will so state on the nameplate next to the VIN, I believe.
CSA stands for Canadian Standards Association. This is what they say about themselves:

The Canadian Standards Association is a not-for-profit membership-based association serving business, industry, government and consumers in Canada and the global marketplace.

As a solutions-oriented organization, we work in Canada and around the world to develop standards that address real needs, such as enhancing public safety and health. Advancing the quality of life. Helping to preserve the environment. Facilitating trade.

We help people understand standards through education and information products and services. Each year, thousands of people benefit from the training materials, workshops and seminars offered by the CSA Education & Training.


When I think of the US equivalent, Underwriters' Laboratory comes to mind. Are they still approving plug-in things?
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Old 03-11-2011, 03:43 PM   #21
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My 30' Classic came with vinyl from the entry door to the bedroom, love it!
I think that's the stock configuration. At least it's what I got having specified no departure from stock.

The relatively small carpeted area in the lounge, next to the gaucho, is what has pretty much stained and matted after a year on my trailer.
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Old 03-11-2011, 03:48 PM   #22
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CSA stands for Canadian Standards Association.

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When I think of the US equivalent, Underwriters' Laboratory comes to mind. Are they still approving plug-in things?
I may have meant CGA rather than CSA. In any case, the trailers intended for use in Canada cost a few bucks extra and have the covered propane lines.
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:12 PM   #23
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The relatively small carpeted area in the lounge, next to the gaucho, is what has pretty much stained and matted after a year on my trailer.
Wow...my trailer is 6 yrs old now and the carpet is in really good shape. I've used a bissell carpet machine on it once (puppy barf) and it cleaned right up. I don't have any matting either. My trailer was traded after 8 months by the original owner who moved up to a 34' so I didn't order it but I'm sure it's the original...maybe they got some sort of upgrade but it doesn't reflect that in the owners manual. My carpet has many years left in it...maybe after 05 or 06 Airstream started putting crappy carpet in.
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Old 03-13-2011, 10:37 AM   #24
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Wow...my trailer is 6 yrs old now and the carpet is in really good shape.
You have been quite lucky. One of the grandchildren spilled something on the carpet that turned a light pink. Two professional carpet cleaners could not remove it. We think we're better off without it. Except in the bedroom where landing on a cold floor first thing in the morning is shocking.
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The carpet in our 2007 is in pretty good shape. We are now using carpet runners to protect the high wear areas. We also use them on the vinyl floor to keep our feet warm in the colder weather.
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I purchased clear vinyl tubing and put it on the propane lines with pipe clamps—the kind that screw down. You have to slit the tubing on one side with a utility knife and not cut yourself, but it only takes a hour or two to install it.

The vinyl floor in ours has humps in it, more after each winter because the factory installs it improperly. Flooring is not the factory's strong point. Looks like you can have the same bad flooring in a Classic as we have in a Safari.

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Just curious, at what temp does everyone set their thermistat.? zz
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Perhaps my post should be a new thread, sorry. zz
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