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Old 09-17-2010, 03:40 PM   #43
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I didn't believe that, after I read the first sentence...

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I do hope she's not a member here, or I could be in trouble!

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If you"ll give me what I have invested I'll let go of it. Although I'm going to really miss the stress.




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Craftsman,...Did you buy it new? Used?

If NEW, why didn't you complain earlier on these issues?

If used, then why would you think the 2010 would be as bad as YOUR 2007?



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Old 09-17-2010, 04:23 PM   #49
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Since we are talking about THOR,

I found out today that Thor Industries Inc. has bought a controlling interest in Elkhart, Ind.-based Heartland Recreational Vehicles LLC. The purchase price is $200 million.

Maybe instead of buying up everything, they should focus on QC issues.

Just my thought of the day....
Crap...thanks for the heads up...Heartland was building an excellent quality trailer...

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Not singling you out, but there are some of us that take great pride in what we do. I stress over things people will never ever see. Like Viking, I worked in the cabinet trade for many years. When I was an apprentice I was told " If you don't have time to do right the first time, what makes you think you have time to do it again" I was also told, "if it's not right, it's wrong!!!" There were lots of expletives thrown in that I left out. It is unfortunate that so few people work with their hands these days. Hopefully the few that do will soon be compensated like the guys programming the computers and shuffling the papers around.
I think the real issue is accountability. The person that stamps pass on the thing is not doing his job correctly.
I to take pride in my work, but it frustrating to work for a company that only pays lip service to quality. I have called them on it on more one occasion and usually win when I do. BUT I should not have to do that on mid to upper level management, it should be ingrained by now.

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All things considered, I'm pretty happy with our AS that we bought used a few years ago.

I can't say we've had any real problems with it other than a couple of minor leaks which I have fixed and which I think are par for the course of anything that has lots of caulked seams/joints and moves down the highway.

Probably the biggest disappointment to me was when I learned (before I bought) that Airstreams still had wooden floors. We had lots of problems with floor rot on our last SOB trailer.

I initially figured that since leaks in RV's are pretty much inevitable and most water finds its way down the the floor, surely a trailer such as the AS would have some fancy composite honeycomb laminate metal/composite floor that was completely water resistant! Silly me!

I have found a few very minor interior fit and finish issues that are a bit surprising in a trailer of this cost, but nothing too bad.

Certainly I would love to own a perfect trailer, but I think that the relationship between
quality and cost is far from a linear one.

I do think that the AS is better-built than the average SOB, but we'd probably have to pay a whole lot more still for a guarantee of perfection! Doesn't mean we shouldn't bitch and grumble I suppose!

For what I paid, I'm still an happy with my purchase!

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I bought my 1968 Trade Wind knowing I would have to do a lot of work in renovating to contemporary safety and comfort. I would still go vintage after reading through this thread.

Airstream is an American icon. I'm a happy camper.

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Sorry folks but I have to agree with Craftsman on this one.
A/S is touted to be the best, no qualifications.
I will submit if it were not for the unbelievable dedication and commitment of the many, many folks on this forum and those not on the forum, most older Airstreams would not be in any better condition than most other brands.
From what I have seen on my 78 Excella they certainly are not built any better and in some areas even worse.
There is no way I would consider buying a "new" one and I doubt I will ever buy another old one.
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Yea ,an American Icon. That's what attracts a lot of owners.



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I'll post my Questions ,Again....

Craftsman,...Did you buy it new? Used?

If NEW, why didn't you complain earlier on these issues?

If used, then why would you think the 2010 would be as bad as YOUR 2007?



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Old 09-17-2010, 05:50 PM   #56
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Yea ,an American Icon. That's what attracts a lot of owners.

The Icon is a bonus, IMO.

I have seen other Trailers and in 20-30 years, with maintanience,Mine will still be riding down the road. Longevity and reliability. When I purchased my 2010 I really didn't even understand the history of Airstream. I bought a used Argosy, Fixed it up and sold it. Then fell in Love with my New Airstream. I'm 42 years young. Not retired. Pretty handy.

All of these problems you listed,IMO, are MINOR.

I tell alot of people to buy New. No headaches of finding replacement parts,sagging rear ends....etc.

You get a two year warranty. Stripped screws??? Cmon are you serious?
Maybe because you are in the carpentry business, a lot more attention to detail, that why I'm wondering why the complaints now? Payments getting to you and you want to dump it? Are you upside down on it? Or is it just anger for no Perfection?

If you said it leaks over and over again,sagging rear end,Fridge replaced twice, Flooring coming apart,cracks in the wood...I understand but really?

All of the above is my observation and by no means am I attacking you. I'm just curious why does all this get you now?

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