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Old 01-22-2009, 07:11 PM   #29
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Because the dealer 45 miles from my house is a crook!
The one that I bought my first from was not good either...they are now out of business or not carrying Airstream any longer. They NEVER knew the product very well at all. The one I bought my second one from was a great exp, and it was about 300 miles away. Then when I was shopping to once again upgrade before I got hit on this second one, they were nowhere near what they were just a few years after I bought my second from them. The I decided to just stick with what I had, issues and all.

I will totally agree that the bulk of the dealer network is far beyond weak, it's borderline pathetic. From knowledge of product to few and far between dealers, I can count maybe on two hands dealers worth their weight in gold. No need for me to mention them, they clearly know who they are, and most of us here do too.
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:27 PM   #30
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Since most of the dealers carry other brands wonder if they know any more about them than they do Airstream? The only other RV I've owned was a Casita and they sell factory direct only so I don't have any direct knowledge of this. But I have bought a few new cars/trucks over the years and most of those dealers don't know squat about what they're selling either. Airstream has lost a number of dealers in the past year. Wonder how much this is going to affect sales? Of course the ones that are left are happy since they'll sell more but how many people are going to travel many hundreds of miles to buy from even a good dealer - particularly if they hear about all the QC problems that people are having. And it might be one thing to drive a good distance to buy the trailer but having to constantly take it back for warranty work would get very old in a hurry.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:05 PM   #31
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Once again I am reminded how glad I am to be near Airstream of Arkansas (AOA). I haven’t needed much from them, but I consider them friends. I wouldn’t hesitate to take anything to AOA. They are true enthusiasts. They do carry other brands (helps with the bills), but their true loves are Airstreams and Airstreamers. They love vintage too.

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:23 PM   #32
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Hi Michelle

I would agree with you we have not sold a 30 Classic since the 31 Dinette and espessially the 31 Free Standing Dinette became available.

The 30 is still a very nice unit but the 31' Bath and the storage seem to be more desirable than the additonal living space in the 30.

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Different strokes for different folks, and that's a good thing too I guess!!

When we decided recently to buy a recent model AS, we had the choice between the Classic 30 and 31, same year, same price.

For us, the selling point was the increased lounge space up front. For that we were willing to forgo the additional hanging space and self contained bathroom.

My wife wasn't too keen initially on having the toilet essentially stuck out in the aisle, but we have found a plus is the large bathroom area you get when the two sliding doors are across the aisle.

Works fine for us, but I can appreciate some may not like the floorplan.


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Old 01-22-2009, 08:25 PM   #33
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I was so hung up on airstreams(and still am), so thats all I could think about when I bought a vintage 1971 27 foot overlander from cambridge ohio, over 300 miles from my home,because my son-in-law had a 1961 overlander that I looked the floorplan and loved(He at 22 will never repair, I think)I bought mine and the kids(4-8) loved it.this year will be the third calander year for our camper. me and the wife went to jackson center this year to see the trailer being made. Due to econimic times, production was not running and we walked through an idle plant. I still spent $300.00 at the factory store.I love airstreams and the history, but the price is much to high for the amount of labor required. bucked rivets are great but at what cost am I at 42 willing to pay? I am so tempted by the 10K little camper that some of the airstream dealers push,but it came from china.it was called the I-camp. it was a small apparently well made camper and for the wife and me might have been great.I have worked for the last 20 plus years of my life in the auto manufacture business and airstreams are nice and historic,but I am losing faith.I want the lifestile that airstream promised, whether it is or isn't with airstream. If I am too rough, please help me to understand the reason to spend an extra 40k when my house and 40 acres cost 60k. sorry for my rant .I am only human, and still love airstreams. Don
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:19 PM   #34
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:07 AM   #35
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I love Airstreams, vintage and not.

My Classic has convinced me. I will never buy new again.

The Pride is no longer there.

I'm not happy about this...
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:42 AM   #36
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We've been daydreaming about retiring with a 34' Cocoa-Slide model as a full-time home in a warm clime, and our 28 footer for tooling around the country.
The current economy and this news mean we have to reconfigure our dream.
We'll be working into our 70's as it is due to the EVAPORATION of 401(k) and SEP-IRA balances, so maybe it was all a dream anyway!
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:22 AM   #37
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the lenders used to give you 20 year financing on an airstream.this must say something about the quality when most rvs are only allowed between 10-15 years.i bought my 07 with the plan to use it as a mobile condo.i have to say the comfort of this unit is like no other rv i have owned.bought new only because i intend to hold onto this trailer and then pass it along to the next generation.in the big scheme of things i see airstream as a very good value.other sobs i have owned over the years were fully depreciated over a five year period.dont expect that will happen with this timeless classic.
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:46 AM   #38
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.in the big scheme of things i see airstream as a very good value.other sobs i have owned over the years were fully depreciated over a five year period.dont expect that will happen with this timeless classic.

This is somewhat of a fallacy (not totally). You see, the fact is that in 27 years my parents Jayco still has value as it has been cared for over the years. A comparable used Airstream is only worth a few thousand more.

Airstreams do depreciate significantly the first 3-5 years then ever so slowly after that (depending on a few factors). Given the fact that you pay about 2 to 3 times more than the average RV, that means to me that clearly you have paid for that higher resale value a few years down the road. You most likely paid a lot less for those SOBs that were nearly fully depreciated 5 years down the road, if not, you were the exception and not typically the rule.

This is not a ht against the trailers, heck I bought new too, but it is not the sound investment in the future many folks believe or talk themselves into when buying a new unit.
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:11 AM   #39
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Depreciation....Myth?

FWIW
2003 Classic NADA... average value $20295.00. More than 40% less than MSRP.

Has this trailer held it's value?
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:24 PM   #40
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2003 Classic NADA... average value $20295.00. More than 40% less than MSRP.

Has this trailer held it's value?
Compared to most SOBs, same year, size and amenities, yes, but, keep in mind as I said earlier, you paid 2 to 3x than the comparable SOB, so the fact that yours is still worth $20k is all a matter of relevance to the new purchase price of a new SOB vs a new Airstream. It's all economies of scale.

Now mind you, values on Airstream trailers can go up, particularly some models more than others. For example, I have seen some beautifully restored vintage 50s and 60s Airstream units with asking prices half or more than that of a new Airstream. Of course these folks put several thousand dollars and hours into these, but they still sell for more than their orig purchase price, plus rehab costs. That is not as common in the SOB market. As an example, I could redo my parents 82 Jayco and make it the Plaza Hotel of Jayco 24' trailers and would most likely not get $20k for it.

Do I think my Safari, your Classic or the many CCDs out there will be similar at some point to that of the 50s and 60s units out there that have been restored, fetching these prices I am seeing? I sincerely doubt it given all the issues I've seen out there with them. I consider these similar black sheep to the 70s Beatrice units.....of course, only time will tell how accurate these perceptions are.
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2003 Classic NADA... average value $20295.00. More than 40% less than MSRP.

Has this trailer held it's value?
I kind of doubt you actually find one for that low. But if you do, consider this, a car depreciates 30% the first year of ownership and then 5-10% each year after that. If the 2003 Classic depreciates 30% the first year (and you can usually get 18-25% off list price of new one, or once could) that leaves a 10% depreciation over the next 5 years (currently, 09's are on the market). Seems to me that it has held its value.
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I kind of doubt you actually find one for that low. But if you do, consider this, a car depreciates 30% the first year of ownership and then 5-10% each year after that. If the 2003 Classic depreciates 30% the first year (and you can usually get 18-25% off list price of new one, or once could) that leaves a 10% depreciation over the next 5 years (currently, 09's are on the market). Seems to me that it has held its value.
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