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Old 12-26-2016, 04:21 PM   #1
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2008 Classic 25fb Remodel Reveal

Our 2008 is our first and probably last Airstream we will ever own so we decided to make some livability improvements to the bedroom, kitchen and living area plus add some solar. We hope to take some extended trips in the near future and realized the 25fb floorplan could use some improvements. After looking at newer twin bed model Flying Cloud model Airstreams and decided we liked our Classic more than the Flying Cloud with ducted air. We honestly do not like the all aluminum interior and cabinetry of newer Airstreams. Since I still work we decided to get the work done professionally. The company we chose was A&P Vintage Trailer Works, Paradise, TX. They specialize in Airstream and Avion trailers renovations, repairs and maintenance and have received good reviews from other Airstreamers.

Here was our list:
1. Remove queen bed and construct twin beds and night stand.
2. Cut the ceiling to floor bedroom closet to create a hanging closet. Use the two drawers from the bedroom closet in the new night stand.
3. A large singe drawer in the night stand under to two small drawers.
4. Matching Corian for the nightstand.
5. A larger drawer under each twin bed.
6. Replace Atwood water heater with Truma hybrid on demand water heater.
7. Replace Interstate batteries with two Lifeline 220ah AGM 6v batteries
8. Magnum 1012 1000w inverter charger. Wire the A/C and microwave away from inverted power. Wire all 110v receptacles to provide inverted power.
9. Amsolar 200w roof solar with controller.
10. Magnum and Blue Sky wall mounted remotes
11. Kitchen cabinet mounted on side couch adjacent to fridge wall and under the TV mount. Two drawers and side cabinet. Matching Corian counter top.
12. Remove curb side dinette seat and install Lambright wall hugger recliner. Recliner covered in matching Ultraleather. Modify hickory dinette table to allow the recline to fit.
13. Replace skylights with Maxim skylights
14. Replace both Fantastic fans with MaxxFan Deluxe vent fans with remotes.
15. Replace all bolts in stabilizer jacks as sever had broken heads.
16. Replace plumbing vents on roof
17. Replace 7 pin cable
18. Replace LP tank hoses and regulator.
19. Replace vinyl floor with Marmoleum sheet floor, quarter round molding on cabinets.

The goal of this remodel was to make the results look "factory" as much as possible.

Here is a video of our trailer that was published by the dealer we purchased from. Compare with the changes we have had done.


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Old 12-26-2016, 04:25 PM   #2
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Twin Beds

Here are some photos showing the twin beds and new nightstand. A battery disconnect switch is located in the street side cabinet. The curb side cabinet has the new Progressive Dynamics DC and Dual AC circuit boards.
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:33 PM   #3
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Batteries, Inverter/Converter Under Street Twin Bed

Under the street side twin bed frame are the 2 6v Lifeline 220ah batteries, Magnum 1012 1000w inverter/charger, Magnum solar controller and miscellaneous equipment and wiring. The street side twin bed is hinged to allow access.
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We decided to have built a small kitchen cabinet with a couple of drawers and cabinet and Corian counter top. The allows more work surface and extra/easier access for pots/pans and flat items like cookie sheets, pans etc. The counter top is just below the curtain rails. The side couch has two Ultraleather cushions. I decided to remove the cushion closest to the fridge wall and put attach the cabinet. The back rest cushions were shorted but A&Ps upholstery vendor and they did an excellent job. I have the extra ultra leather if I decide to have some pillows made. The top drawer holds all out cutlery and the bottom can hold several frying pans, sauce pans and vegetable steamers. The side cabinet can be used for cookie sheets, cutting board and the sink cover. The storage under the the couch is retained. Their is still six feet of sleeping space available for a third person. The cabinet is at an ideal height for someone to eat from when sitting on the side couch. We can still seat 4 comfortable in the living area and the bedroom area can be used as a second conversational area.
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Here is the new living area with Lambright recliner. The hickory table was cut down to about 26" wide. This allows the Lambright to swing from the eating/working position to the lounging position, perfect for watching TV. The table was cut away from the street side dinette seat so its easier lay along the dinette to side couch and have enough room for you shoulders and a cushion or pillow to watch TV. I realized when I ordered the Lambright the table height may be a little high but I didn't want to compromise the height for the street side dinette seat. I placed a cushion/pillow on the Lambright recliner and it raise you enough to make eating a little more comfortable. We will use the excess Ultraleather from the removal of the curb dinette cushions and side couch to have some pillows made to the same size as the Lambright recliner. The cushion just needs to be 2-3" to raise you up to a more comfortable height.
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Here is a hallway view. The twin beds opens up the trailer interior nicely.
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Kelvin - wonderful, inspiring work. Thanks for taking the time to post the photos and detailed explanations. I think you are going to have many years of great fun and comfort in that special coach! Joe
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Truma Water Heater

Here is the Truma Aquago water heater. Its a hybrid water heater, in that there is a small reservoir that is kept at 110F and then when a faucet is opened it runs the water which is heated up to 120F. The Truma will activate when the reservoir temperature goes below 110F and you can place it in a Eco mode to keep the reservoir at 40F to keep it from freezing when use is not anticipated. An off/switch is installed in place of the Atwood controls in the bathroom, just an on/off switch with a red LED that illuminates when active.

The reason I had my Atwood switched out is it used a lot of propane to heat up the water which would be burning propane for more than 1/2 hour. I used up most of one propane tank on my August trip to Montana last August. The Atwood was almost too hot at times with no way to adjust. However, the Truma is set to 120F. In cold weather, which we camped in after picking up, I discovered the water comes out hot, then you feel the water temps drop off for a few seconds before it gets hot again. I suspect the water out of the ice cold faucet doesn't get as hot through the heating section at first then catches up. I will have to use it over the season to get a better experience on how it works overall.

The last photo shows how to winterize the Truma. Just drop the yellow labeled door and remove the filter element and the small reservoir empties out. The water heater is still connected to the same diverter valves if you decide to use antifreeze.
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Here is the Marmoleum flooring. A&P removed the dinette and side couch, queen bed then laid the floor in one sheet, including into the bathroom. Since a Marmoleum sheet is not a wide as an Airstream it was laid so any seams are under a bed, or living room furniture. The subtfloor was belt sanded and any irregularities were filled in and sanded smooth. The vendor A&P uses did a great job cutting around the hallway and bathroom. Quarter round molding stained to the hickory was installed in the hallway and kitchen cabinets. The style of this Maromrleum is Vivace, and the color is Donkey Island.
http://www.forbo.com/flooring/en-gl/...-vivace/bofl1k
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The goal of this remodel was to make the results look "factory" as much as possible.Kelvin
Great job. I like all the improvements. IMO you achieved all your stated goal.
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These are the two Maxims skylights. I choose the frosted white for the hallway. We keep the curtains drawn in the bedroom so the skylight adds nice defused natural lighting. In the living area I chose the bronze tint to help with the heat and still allow looking through to the sky or to observe the orientation of the Winegard antenna.
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The solar panels, 2 100w SF100 AmSolar panels are located midships and rear between the A/C and the curb awning. I can add two more panels in the future over the front bedroom roof.
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The solar combiner box is located over the bedroom such the cable can be run down between the shower stall and the shower bedroom wall into the street twin bed electrical area. The two MaxxFan Deluxe vent fans are shown. I find these a big upgrade to the Fantastic Fans I had. You can open them in the rain, the fans are quieter and they have a remote to adjust the fans speed, thermostat, lid open/close and fan direction.
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Since the batteries are removed from he front A frame battery box I can use it to store my sewer hose slinky and 10 Lynx leveler blocks.
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While I was at A&P I had them weight the tongue weight using a Shoreline scale at the coupler. I was pleasantly surprised it was about 950lbs. A&P topped up th e LP tanks but the main tanks were pretty much empty.This seems to be about 100lbs less.

The mattresses we purchased were from Mattress Inside. After speaking with Aaron we decided a firmer mattresses was needed and went with there latex model with a CoolGel top. It took a couple of weeks to get them and they fit perfectly.

I forgot to mention in the solar installation, A&P, wired up a connector in the hydraulic actuator storage area to allow me to connect my 200w Zamp portable solar panel. I removed the Zamp controller off the panel and A&P attached the Anderson connector. So it ideal situations I can have 400 watts of solar and can park the trailer in shade and place the 200w portable in the sun.

I ordered most of the equipment A&P installed.

AMSolar 200w SF100 kit with controller, remote and cables.
Magnum 1012 1000w inverter/charger with remote
Lambright recliner covered in match Ultraleather
Lifeline 6v batteries (2 220ah)
DC and AC circuit panels
MaxxAir vents (2)
50ft cable and connectors for portable solar panel connectivity.
Mattresses

A&P ordered
Truma water heater
Maxim skylights. I let A&P order these so they could provide the correct measurement.
Provided the solar and inverter fuse, circuit breakers, wires etc.
Marmoleum flooring
Outsourced the installation of the flooring the the upholstery modifications.

The project took about 3 months. The trailer was delivered on October 9th and picked up December 20th. I didn't give A&P a drop dead date as it was the end of the season and didn't want to put any pressure on them to rush the job plus they have other customers. A&P allowed me to camp overnight at their shop to play with everything. Our trip was delayed several days to the extreme cold that came through the midwest on October 17. I'm glad I waited several days.

If you have any question please post or PM me.

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Really nice job, Kelvin. We loved our recliners, but gave them up (at least temporarily) to get a dinette. We loved our twin beds so much (for me the extra length was the kicker) we got them in our new (to us) trailer. Your well thought out work at least matches, if not exceeds, the look of factory. Happy trailering!

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In planning out the design of the twin beds and kitchen cabinet I made hand drawings on graph paper to get an idea of rough drawer and cabinet dimensions and placement. I scanned the drawings and sent them to A&P so they could understand my requirements. I think this helped them understand what I had in mind vs just trying to describe over the phone.

Attached is one of the drawings I sent to A&P. It matches the street twin very closely.

I also sent them links to Airforum user threads who had made twin bed and recliner conversion.

A&P could've built a folding dinette table but for us we always need the table up as I've always got a computer out or a camera, so we keep the table with either a table cloth or place mats out.

All these updates didn't come cheap. I suppose if I took the cost of purchasing our Airstream and these changes we could have probably been close to the price of a twin bed Flying Cloud but we wouldn't have the drawers under the twins or the extra one in the nightstand, no roof solar or Lifeline batterisz, battery monitors, Magnum inverter, kitchen cabinet, Lambright recliner, maromleum floor, Maxim skylights, MaxxAir vent, hickory cabinets, vinyl covered ceiling and the most important item; no mouse fur

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Yeah, I forgot to mention that one of the things I really want to change is to replace the drop doors and bins on shelves under our twins with drawers, just like you did.

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Very nice job! This is giving me some great ideas for our 2004 Classic 28 as we upgrade it. Thanks for sharing!
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