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Complete trailer frame treated with POR 15 before outer shell is attached. 19 57.58%
Complete trailer frame constructed out of Aluminum materials. 15 45.45%
Doesn't matter about the POR15 paint treatment prior to construction 2 6.06%
Doesn't matter about trailer frame Aluminum constructions 0 0%
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:44 PM   #15
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Personally, I don't see how they get the kind of money they do. I mean, I can imagine that one of the most expensive things in a car is the motor. In an AS? No Motor.

Cars have heavy saftey standards and the related equipment to meet them (airbags, etc). TTs? Hmmm(n)...

Even a rowboat has to NOT leak. We'll say no more on that subject.

Cars have heavy design changes on a regular basis. Airstream uses the same basic look they had 50 years ago. It's a Big Deal if they change the toilet paper dispenser!

But you can have a car for under $20k. $60 buys you an exotic high-level one, with all the bells and whistles!

Don't get me wrong, I love Airstream TTs. I just don't get the costing...
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:23 PM   #16
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Good point..

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What alloy did they use?
I wonder the same thing myself..
Consider this fact: The DC-3 and, B-52 (to name a few airframes) are still flying with no frame failures.. that I am aware of. They have taken off and, land thousands of times..
So, I am wondering what the answer might be, as well.
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:42 PM   #17
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There's been a lot of changes in Metalurgy in the last 35 years. Maybe someone with that kind of 'smarts' should take a look at what's economically available in 2009 that would stand up under all the road, storage, vibration, etc. conditions an Airstream has to endure in its lifetime of ???? years.
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:59 PM   #18
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Interesting discussion but the bottom line is I would expect the quality to be in realtionship to the price. It appears that Airstream has had some more recent QA problems that the vintage models weren't afflicted with.
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:10 PM   #19
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We're doing POR-15 on the frame after repair. I recently used the stuff on a utility trailer... seems to be working well. I'm a "customer is always right" guy. If an undercoating system isn't standard... it should be. And if isn't, it should be available on custom basis. If folks are willing to pay, why not let them?
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:39 PM   #20
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If you really want a galvanized frame there is a small trailer manufacturer near me who has ALL his trailers galvanized!

His typical product is a box trailer about 10 feet long and 7 feet wide with sides about 1 1/2 feet high, all galvanized, frame box fenders wheels the works.

I'm sure he could build any style frame you want and have it galvanized. It would be cheap too, what with the low value of the Canadian dollar these days.

This is near Brighton Ontario Canada. What kind of blueprints he would need, what it would cost, shipping etc I do not know but if anyone is interested I could make enquiries.

I don't think you could have your existing frame galvanized, the metal has to be new clean and free from rust, paint, dirt and grease.
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:40 PM   #21
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If I was redoing a frame I would paint it with 3 coats of Tremclad or Rustoleum enamel. I have done this on old machines and they are still good after 20 years outdoors.
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i agree what kinda of aluminum alloy did the use ?

aluminum has came along way in 35 years, look how much it is used in the automotive industry.

Aim sure they could come up with something if they wanted to.

it all comes down to a company's willingness to advance there product and well you all know how much A/S is willing to do this.
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What, other than price, makes Airstream a "Premium" trailer?

All the fixtures are generic, look in a PPL catalog. What does Airstream actually make in house for the "premium" coach they sell. They even have a hard time installing others' products. Most of all my warranty concerns were related to poor workmanship, something we all pay a premium for. They outsource the frame do they not? If they specified a thermoplastic coating, what would it add to the cost?

They don't do it because they don't have too, we are so enamored of the Airstream name we're skeered too demand more.
Never mind.... wouldn't matter no how.
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What, other than price, makes Airstream a "Premium" trailer?

All the fixtures are generic, look in a PPL catalog. What does Airstream actually make in house for the "premium" coach they sell. They even have a hard time installing others' products. Most of all my warranty concerns were related to poor workmanship, something we all pay a premium for. They outsource the frame do they not? If they specified a thermoplastic coating, what would it add to the cost?

They don't do it because they don't have too, we are so enamored of the Airstream name we're skeered too demand more.
Never mind.... wouldn't matter no how.

i agree
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Wally would have a fit if he knew what has happened to AS since his death.

No Life Time Warranty either
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What, other than price, makes Airstream a "Premium" trailer?

All the fixtures are generic, look in a PPL catalog. What does Airstream actually make in house for the "premium" coach they sell. They even have a hard time installing others' products. Most of all my warranty concerns were related to poor workmanship, something we all pay a premium for. They outsource the frame do they not? If they specified a thermoplastic coating, what would it add to the cost?

They don't do it because they don't have too, we are so enamored of the Airstream name we're skeered too demand more.
Never mind.... wouldn't matter no how.
Streamlined aircraft aluminum body, rubberized axles, ahh... what else?
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Wally would have a fit if he knew what has happened to AS since his death.

No Life Time Warranty either
The Feds killed the lifetime warranty, not Airstream.

They said lifetime must apply to everything, carpet, drapes, light bulbs, clear coat, etc.

Obviously, that can't be done.

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The Feds killed the lifetime warranty, not Airstream.

They said lifetime must apply to everything, carpet, drapes, light bulbs, clear coat, etc.

Obviously, that can't be done.

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Shoot Andy, they don't even cover some concerns on new(er) units when the unit is under warranty, 6 months from being off the line. If anyone is going to kill anything, it's Airstream mgmt in the long term.

They could put a 5 year warranty on these babies and it would only make it marginally better. My biggest issue, the corrosion issue from what I have read here on the forums, Airstream is simply turning their head on, so much for customer service and from the company's now defunct forums where they had said, "we will service the heck out of our customers". Nothing but lip service if what I've been reading here is remotely true.

Warranty? Bahumbug! Pay more for any improvements that should have already been on this cash cow? Not a chance.
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