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Old 09-09-2004, 01:56 AM   #15
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What's the difference between sheet vinyl and linoleum?
Linoleum is made from natural products - sawdust, linseed oil & a jute backing.

Sheet vinyl is made from synthetic man-made products - usually layers of vinyl & paper or soft-plastics or solid vinyl. Early sheet vinyls may have included aesbetos too.

Linoleum is the 'old stuff in your grandma's house', sheet vinyl is the man-made 'modern' replacement.

Sheet vinyl is less expensive than linoleum in most cases.

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Old 09-09-2004, 06:30 AM   #16
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Linoleum is made from natural products - sawdust, linseed oil & a jute backing.

Sheet vinyl is made from synthetic man-made products - usually layers of vinyl & paper or soft-plastics or solid vinyl. Early sheet vinyls may have included aesbetos too.

Linoleum is the 'old stuff in your grandma's house', sheet vinyl is the man-made 'modern' replacement.

Sheet vinyl is less expensive than linoleum in most cases.

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Old 05-25-2005, 09:33 AM   #17
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sheets vs. tile

How much of the interior has to be removed to put down sheet linoleum? We already have the sofa/beds out; would we also need to remove the interior partition walls? It's looking more and more like our partition walls will have to be replaced, so should we wait and do the floor when we have them out?
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:57 AM   #18
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No, you don't have to remove the partitions. Just take a chisel and chip out the old tile so it is snug against the walls. I did floor installation for a whole summer in high school--and this is common practice (or at least it was in 1980)! If you can get a tight fit with the new flooring, you won't be able to see the old tile at all. If there is a gap, you can always cover up with a bit of molding.

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no tile; carpet

We never had tile; we removed an old carpet that was laid on the plywood with tack strips (another 70s thing I guess). The only thing around the partitions is the metal strip that's holding them there. If we put down tiles, we can work around that, but if we go with a linoleum sheet, I'm thinking it won't be easy to cut around the partitions. Also, how would we get the partitions out later after the floor is down? (Hmmm, was that a self-answering question?)
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Time and effort and anxiety spent cutting around stuff vs. time spent taking out the stuff and putting it back it.
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If we put down tiles, we can work around that, but if we go with a linoleum sheet, I'm thinking it won't be easy to cut around the partitions.
You may want to get some kraft paper to make a template first...just be sure you don't place the pattern on the flooring backwards when cutting it out.

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Floor tile

To all carpet removers and floor tile or linoleum installers.

The seams on the plywood floor, "move".

Therefore if you install tile, make the seams match that of the floor seams.

For the linoleum installers, your out of luck.

The seams of the floor move very slightly when the trailer is being towed. Because of that, if the floor covering in over the floor seams, it will crack, in time.

That can't happen if you use floor tile, but match it's seams with the floor seams.

The cracks will appear in the linoleum. Just give it some time.

Now we all know why Airstream switched to carpets.

Look at the floor in most any old Airstream. You will easily see the cracks. Not always, but at least most of the time.

Why have your hard work ruined?

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Old 05-25-2005, 01:39 PM   #23
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The cracks will appear in the linoleum. Just give it some time.
FYI...my linoleum (not vinyl) has been down over 3 years now...no cracks yet.

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Linoleum also comes in tile, too.

http://www.environmentalhomecenter.c...ORBO_DUAL_TILE

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Shari.

The more miles, the faster cracks develop.

It quite well can take many years.

But most Airstream Argosy owners keep them for many years.

At least now they know what could or did cause the cracks.

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The more miles, the faster cracks develop.

It quite well can take many years.
By then, I'll be ready for a change!

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linoleum tiles

We just had linoleum tiles put in our 74 overlander and I like the look. We were able to get solid colors tiles to make a stripe pattern against the basic mottled cream color from home depot. We found these left over at a local discount flooring place. They were a fraction of the cost. Unfortunately, we didn't know about matching the seams, so I doubt it was done that way. We did not remove anything but the carpet and the toilet and I think it worked out fine. No molding was used, but the edges were sealed with caulking. Unfortunately it was done without my input in a white shade. I was anticipating putting down a clear caulk which I think would have blended better.

If it does crack, we have extra tiles. Perhaps we will be able to replace cracked tiles if that does happen. We're not traveling yet, so all remains well.
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And with carpet, the more miles the better it looks? I think not!

I'm with Shari on this one. The linoleum was good enough for Grandma and it's good enough for me. I just want to get it down right in the first place. The more I look at the 70s interior, the more I want to reinvent it.

Somebody please save me from this madness!
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