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Old 05-03-2015, 05:12 PM   #155
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:03 PM   #156
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Twice is okay. I like reruns! Keep us posted on the new floor install.

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Old 05-04-2015, 08:27 PM   #157
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Thanks Dingo Girl!!! Learning a lot from you! Would love to have some of your energy!!!
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Old 07-12-2015, 05:54 AM   #158
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As of Friday I can no longer see the frame of my Caravel. I got the new subfloor in. Finally!
Next step is to bolt the rest of it down, just the ends are bolted in now.
It really went well.
I used a friction jack to gingerly push the pieces into place after I got them under the C channel. The jack made easy work of it.
The drill is charging now so I can poke holes in a perfectly new floor and frame.
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Old 07-12-2015, 05:58 AM   #159
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Looks beautiful!

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Old 07-12-2015, 07:45 PM   #160
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Hi dingo gril, what is a friction jack. I never heard of that one.

Your new subfloor is looking very good. Nice job.

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Old 07-12-2015, 11:25 PM   #161
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I like the way it turned out! Keep it going
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Old 08-23-2015, 04:05 PM   #162
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:14 PM   #163
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Monkey on a Stick Friction Jack by Keysco 77043


This link should take you to a description of a friction jack. AKA Monkey on a stick. Who knew it had another name? It was loaned to me and until then I had never heard of one either.
One thing I should have mentioned was that I only used it on the end curved piece of floor.
I used it as a helping hand to move the floor in under the c channel in the back end of the trailer. I could not push it in there by myself and have been working alone all summer.
the trailer shell was shimmed up , but not enough to to let the piece slide in like butter. It did not take much pressure at all to get it to slide in place.
If I had this to do all over again and I had the room to do it inside i would do shell off. I can see through the process thus far where many things would have been much easier shell off.
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Old 10-05-2015, 04:25 PM   #164
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Milestone reached this past weekend. The floor is bolted in !
I was able to do this by myself. With the aid of a creeper to roll around underneath the trailer to tighten the nuts. And a magnet.
For the bolts that went up thru the c channel from underneath I used socket head cap screws and attached the Allen wrench to them with a super strong magnet about the size of a quarter. This worked like a dream.
This step of the project took longer than I had anticipated. Lots of drilling , and lots of hours spent under it tightening bolts and nuts.
It really is nice to be working with new clean materials.
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Wow, just seconds ago I finished a post to Melody Ranch's "Red Barn Liner". He was describing his counter bore idea to make the carriage bolts flush. Why didn't I think of that.

But how to tighten these flat head bolts? Your big magnet idea might offer enough resistance. I ended up cutting a screw driver slot in mine so I could get the nuts tight. And I used nyloc nuts to make matters worse. Counter boring a small shallow hole in the subfloor would allow the use of a socket head cap screw and a Allen wrench like you did on the perimeter of your subfloor (inside the C channel).

Learning new things all the time. Like how to use a friction jack to push the subfloor under the shell!

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Old 10-06-2015, 05:17 AM   #166
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I used elevator bolts for floor to frame attachment and SHCS for shell to frame/floor attachment.
I had 3 elevator bolts that I had to go back and slot since they spun in the hole. I too used nylock nuts.
I think the bolts that Melody Ranch has talked about from time to time are the self tapping , self counter sinking kind. Of course I could have him confused with another forum member.
Are you going to bend the bolts over like airstream did originally? Or will you trust the nylocks ?
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I trust the nyloc bolts. And I trust LocTite if so inclined. I did not bend the bolts like Airstream did. That is fast and cheap, but not a good practice.

Years ago I have been known to hammer a nut to make it somewhat oval and it would drag hard on the bolt and be less prone to vibrate loose. I don't do that anymore.

It's just kinda difficult to figure out a good way to retain the bolt when the thing doesn't have a slot, phillips, hex, torx, socket head or any other way of resisting the torque applied to the nut from underneath the trailer. Carriage bolts have a square below the head that is suppose to fit into a square in the mating part. But our Airstreams don't have that.

Actually adhesives would be an option to consider. Our automobiles are assembled using lots of adhesives. Run a bead along the frame rails and cross members for the section of subfloor being laid, position it, put some weight on the top of it, and I believe that subfloor would be there for good. I think this method is impossible unless the shell was off.

Thanks for your reply.

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Old 10-06-2015, 11:28 AM   #168
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I did not have the heart to take a hammer to my bolts and bend them over.
I trust the way I did it and checked each one with a torque wrench It is better than new and will last longer than I will.
The folks at the estate sale can worry about it next go around.
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