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Old 07-16-2004, 05:40 PM   #1
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Supporting shell to remove frame from below?

All the information i am reading seems to be different from what i need for my trailer. I have a 1968 Tradewind, the side skin panels continue below the u channel that attatches the shell to the frame, and is then pulled underneath and riveted to the frame on the bottom. Is it alright to only support the 24' trailer on the ends? I know i need to do some bracing, i asked in other posts but was not answered. I have all the bolts from the wheel wells-forward cut off, and am about to start on the rear. The weekends are the only time that my father is availabe to help on the trailer for any amount of useful time, so i need to have some information asap. If anyone has information on this style of shell-off restoration please help me out.
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Old 07-16-2004, 07:24 PM   #2
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The skin panles usually do not continue, but rather stop just before the belly wrap.
Did you remove the lower rub rail yet?
Is there not a horizontal rivet line at the bottom of the skin?
I think you need to be more specific on what you're trying to do.
Basically, if you're planning a shell off restoration, then you might follow the threads on this.
Can you take some pictures of the areas in question??
I don't thin ksupporting a 24' shell end to end only is a good thing. The shell is a very flimsy and wobbly affair once the c-channel and floor is no longer attached to it.
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:30 PM   #3
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I would have to agree with Uwe on this. Please post some pictures and be more descriptive of what it is that you are trying to do.
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Old 07-17-2004, 10:45 AM   #4
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Yes, i have removed the rub strip, i am working on getting photos up in the next few minutes. I did not want to support it from both ends, it seems like i am going to have to build an inner structure out of plywood that i can rest the trailer on.
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See my predicament?
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I don't understand, why do you need to pull the shell off?

Are you replacing the frame itself?
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Old 07-17-2004, 10:55 AM   #7
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The panel continues 7.5" below the bottom of the channel that is attatched to the floor. (That is without measuring the extra piece of aluminum that is riveted to the end of that piece.)
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I am going to sand-blast, and re-paint the frame. It also needs some welding repairs up front, and I assume the back under the bathroom needs major repairs.
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I'd still say you shold folow the threads on the frame-off repairs. There are currently 3 or 4 of us doing this, myself included.
The outer shell must be at some point attached to the c-channel, I would assume.
In your case, if the outer shell also forms the beginning of teh belly pan, then you just lift the shell a bit higher to clear things, or remove the axles and slowly drop the frame down low.
You will have to create a cradle of sorts to support the shell, and then lift it up to where it clears the frame. I would use 3 cross sections, wide than the frame, and support them to the ground. Now you can drive the frame right out from under the shell.
Of course, there are tons of rivets to remove, and many little hangups, including the interior lower skin sections.
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I am going to sand-blast, and re-paint the frame. It also needs some welding repairs up front, and I assume the back under the bathroom needs major repairs.
You know, I was going to do the same, but after cleaning the frame with a wire brush attachment for a small grinder, decided to POR15 it instead.
I've done some checking into the stuff, and it's perfect for rusty frames etc.
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Old 07-17-2004, 06:27 PM   #11
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I was confused because all the threads seemed to be using a different approach than i have to, since i seem to have an uncommon setup. I have come up with a way to lift and support the shell, but it took a little bit of planning. It's still not completely planned, but it's a start. We have slightly raised the front of the shell, and supported it for testing our ideas. i'll edit this, and post some pictures in a few minutes after i take a few more, and put them on the site.



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Old 07-18-2004, 01:48 PM   #12
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No takers? I figured i'd bump it up to the top by posting, hoping to get some more info... Well, i guess it'll be useful to someone later on that runs into the same problems that i have.
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The one weak area when I lifted my shell was near the door. I lifted from the top and when I set it down it had a tendency to spread within a few feet of the door. I pulled it in using ratcheting tie downs.

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Well you have an interesting project to say the least.

You could weld the frame in places where it is not too close to the aluminum without removing the shell. You would just have to take a little precaution so the welding sparks are not able to hit the skin anywhere as they will burn right into it and maybe even through it.

The pieces of wood that you are using to keep the integrity of the unit the same look ok in the photos, but how are you lifting and supporting the shell?
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