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Old 12-10-2010, 10:39 AM   #617
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PEX ring crimp 1/2" elbows -- $0.58 in a box of 25

I got my crimper used from a local plumbing store which was selling one of it's rental units. Sharkbites are great for quick repairs in the field by hand, but in hundreds of crimps, I have had zero failures [so far].

Love da crimper! Anyone seen red and blue copper?

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What do these crimpers look like and why are they so expensive?
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:55 AM   #618
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Pex is the way to go, the crimper isn't cheap, but I made up the cost on the first use. My teenage helper and I were able to completely replumb (repex?) a medium size rental house in 6 1/2 hours at a cost that was 1/3 of copper. There is enough left over on the rolls to do another and the AS to boot. Add in the resistance to cold weather bursting and the non-appeal to metal scrappers and it seems the best option.


What do these crimpers look like and why are they so expensive?

They look like bolt cutters with jaw inserts for the different size tubes.
Good tools are never cheap, cheap tools are never good
You could always do your project then ebay or CL the tool to recoup most of the cost
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Old 12-10-2010, 05:16 PM   #619
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What do these crimpers look like and why are they so expensive?
$200 for a good clamp crimp tool, the heads stay in alignment without an additional hand. Good luck.

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Old 12-10-2010, 07:30 PM   #620
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I bought my "Zurn multi-head crimp tool" through Amazon for $120 - it does four common sizes, has a removal tool and a few extras in the box. It works very well and has never done a bad crimp yet.

It paid for itself after one household job, considering the saved costs, materials and time.
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:13 PM   #621
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I bought my Zurn tool at Home Depot

My PEX tool is also a Zurn which I bought at Home Depot. The following HD site shows what it looks like and lists it for $94 which is a pretty good value in my opinion.

Multi-head Pex Crimp Tool Kit - QCRTMH at The Home Depot

Happy PEXing,

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Old 12-10-2010, 09:16 PM   #622
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Thanks, folks. Hopefully I won't need on for awhile, but best to be educated.
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That is not the tool I have. The tool I have comes in a carry case, and contains the Mult-Head Crimp Tool, 3/8" Jaw, 5/8" Jaw, 3/4" Jaw, 1/2" Jaw, Optional Crimp Ring Removal Tool and Crimper Adjustment Tools.

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Yours is the basic crimper. The one in this set has a "go/no-go" option that really protects you from improper crimps.

I think that's worth $25 extra alone.
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This is what I'm go to use to crip my pipes, will have it done in less than a hour, and no leaks, all for under $50.00.......childs play.

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Thanks again for sharing your progress. Awesome work, the level of neatness is inspiring!

Are you going to install unions anywhere or go with sweat all the way to the connections?
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Thanks again for sharing your progress. Awesome work, the level of neatness is inspiring!

Are you going to install unions anywhere or go with sweat all the way to the connections?
Thanks,

Yes, the design intent to blow the line's out, no need for antifreeze. The trap's are waterless. Also will remove fresh water tank, for winter storage and to sanitize.

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Waterless Trap

Is a waterless trap like a flap?
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That is not the tool I have. The tool I have comes in a carry case, and contains the Mult-Head Crimp Tool, 3/8" Jaw, 5/8" Jaw, 3/4" Jaw, 1/2" Jaw, Optional Crimp Ring Removal Tool and Crimper Adjustment Tools.

Amazon link

Yours is the basic crimper. The one in this set has a "go/no-go" option that really protects you from improper crimps.

I think that's worth $25 extra alone.
Perhaps the Home Depot item that I selected is not the right one. Mine did include the extra jaws and ring removal tool. It has the blue colored handles just like in the Amazon photo and otherwise looks identical. I thought from reading the fine print on the ad that it said that the Home Depot one has multiple heads and the removal tool. The Photo at the Home Depot site was just of the tool itself and did not show the case and other parts. Certainly $25 extra would be worth the cost if the Home Depot one does not include these extra things. Mine did though and was less than $100.

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Good to know

Therefore, the good tool set is under $100, and the PEX choice is a little easier

And now back to our originally scheduled toastie...
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