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Old 12-22-2014, 04:54 PM   #15
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Stefrobrts is correct.

Remarkably, for an untold reason, 1968 was the year they sprayed the underside with foam instead of using fiberglass batting.

Go figure??

Avion and Streamline were both starting to replace batting with complete spray foam that year. See sales brochures at Dr Gradeless and Tom Patterson respectively.

This is also a point in time where inflation due to Vietn War was taking off. Tends to mark end of innovation, overall.
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Old 12-23-2014, 06:30 AM   #16
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Dustycg,

I'm interested in what you ultimately decided to do. We're just starting on our 68 Overlander. We have a soft spot in exactly the same spot (both sides), but not rotted through. We're leaning toward replacing the front piece of flooring without removing the shell. So far the rest of our floor looks very solid (although, I still need to pull the refrigerator and have a look under it).

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Old 12-27-2014, 08:25 PM   #17
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Take a 16 penny nail, ice pick, or something similar to check floor under windows and at the entry door of your trailer to help determine how much floor needs replaced. The bathroom is obvious and perhaps your frame is heavily rusted?
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:11 PM   #18
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I'm thinking about no shell off complete floor replacement hypothesis.I'm going to explain my project, First step cut first floor 2'square width side to side off.Second round built up a small size steel ribbon right lenght sliding it below c-channel from that to the opposite,90 degrees respect the longitudinal structural frame's bars. The ends of the bar fitted with holes for screwing and teflon covering preventing corrosion from c-channel and screw contact. Put the ribbon in place screwing throught the teflon in the hole fixing it to the c-channels like a bridge, then weld the ribbon to the frame. Repeat step by step first and second round along the surface. At the end of the process the floor is off with shell in place with good stability. Now the floor will be just replaced as you want with any structural impact and a solid support. Hoping in my scolastic foreign llanguage I thank in advance for any relplies.

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Old 01-22-2015, 06:44 AM   #19
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shell on replacing floor

I'm just starting with my own project. Now here is first round, look at shots attached below, I hope are clearer than I wrote previously. You can see bars' feature and how I've fixed th them down there on the frame and below the c channel. Even a stiffener for shell's periferhal edge . Weldering is going on. To be continued...

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Old 01-24-2015, 06:27 AM   #20
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shell on total subfloor replacing

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I'm just starting with my own project. Now here is first round, look at shots attached below, I hope are clearer than I wrote previously. You can see bars' feature and how I've fixed th them down there on the frame and below the c channel. Even a stiffener for shell's periferhal edge . Weldering is going on. To be continued...

Luca
First welderings done. Now the frame is just plugged with the rear.Small inferior inner skins' patches for vertical c channel screwing were removed and will be replaced in the and. Another old subfloor's square cutted off. 2nd bar in place is going to be attached. My job is running quickly...

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PS please rotate some pics I don’t know the reason why not be able to do
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:33 AM   #21
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I had considered doing this on my Airstream a few years ago but decided to better seal instead. If I ever do a rebuild again I will most likely take this approach.
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:42 AM   #22
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Thanks Aerowood, you encourage me a lot! Luca
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:45 AM   #23
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First welderings done. Now the frame is just plugged with the rear.Small inferior inner skins' patches for vertical c channel screwing were removed and will be replaced in the and. Another old subfloor's square cutted off. 2nd bar in place is going to be attached. My job is running quickly...

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PS please rotate some pics I don’t know the reason why not be able to do
OK...another subfloor's square cut off, another strong metallic bar put in place and weldered. No bars in the self mantaining mid will be inserted. Now I'm stopping for a cold ...get aspirine!
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shell on total subfloor replacing

Just good health and I'm ready to re start. I jump the axles where the shell is over the floor and I'm making the same job in the front area. I guess it's better taking the inside walls apart so I'll be able to get a good look for full coach's restoration . I hope to remove completely the floor in a few days.

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subfloor off shell on

Just get the goal! The subfloor is completely off no shell's lifting procedure has been requested . Now we're getting a good look at A-frame's structure and is solid. The space between the new weldered bars will be covered by splitted plywood seamed in the middle getting a flat surface along. Beneath we're going to put new water tanks, plumbing and anchorage for bunk bed's hardware. So a bit time for the final pics...Thanks you all

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Old 02-20-2015, 04:31 PM   #26
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Luca,
I am watching your posts on this thread with great interest. I am considering a similar approach on my recently purchased 1957 Airstream Flying Cloud and have a couple of questions.

1. What is the depth, width and metal thickness of the “bars” you are inserting?

2. You mention that you are using Teflon between the aluminum and the steel. Is there a particular Teflon product you are using?

3. Do you have any concern about water penetrating the end of the steel tubing in the area of the bolt coming down from the c-channel? When I work with tubing I am always concerned about rust within the interior of the tube which can go unseen until it fails.

4. Are you placing any metal under the shell’s c-channel between the bars (other than below the end cap area)? I assume that since you mention that you are splicing plywood that you will be placing plywood between the bars and that it will extend under the c-channel and that you will not be using metal in this area under the c-channel.

5. How do you plan on attaching the plywood between the bars? I thought that I would weld tabs to the bottom of the bars and perhaps even weld nuts under the tabs so I could just drill though the plywood at the correct spots and insert machine screws through the plywood into the nuts welded to the tabs.

6. It would seem that you must be using additional thick finish flooring over the plywood and metal bars as there will be a certain amount of gap or groove between the bars and the plywood which could show up if you use a thin material.

I look forward to future posts on your progress.

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I thank you for your post. My replies to you
1) tubes' dimensions about 1" width 0,07" thickness right depth for the space between the frame below and c-channel above
2) Teflon was a start on. Actually putted between hard rubbers' small sheets
3) Tubes are zinc builded up not steel, preventing rusting process
4-5) I guess adding perimetric metal reinforce is an option not a must depending by shell & frame's features. Plywood will be fastened with screws like original below c-channels
6) Could be an important issue. Let's get a good solution!
Thanks a lot for your interest

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Luca. Thank you for your detailed response. Its going to be several months before I can get started on mine so I look forward to your continued progress. I am probably going to use a real wood engineered flooring over the subfloor.
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