Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-05-2011, 01:53 PM   #197
Airstream Fanatic
 
ND10CentCan's Avatar

 
1976 31' Sovereign
1959 17' Pacer
1965 26' Overlander
Bismarck , North Dakota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,031
Images: 9
More progress and more questions

My husband is coming along on the floor and we were trying to clean up the aluminum channel piece that the wheel well goes into (it is a channel with another area underneath it for the floor to slip into) and it doesn't fit the new wheel wells that we got. Hmmm....what's next?

I will attach a picture of the aluminum channel that we need to locate and if anyone has sources for it, I would love to know where. We will need enough to do both sides of the trailer. My dearest also mentioned he could try to fabricate something if I would let him get a spool gun for his welder so he could use it for aluminum. I am curious why every project step involves the purchase of more tools?

The other pictures will be of the floor progress to date and what is left of the hold down piece for the rear-he long rusty thing that looks like a rat chewed it up.
Sandy
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Sovereign November 2011 floor progress 018.jpg
Views:	88
Size:	637.1 KB
ID:	144580   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sovereign November 2011 floor progress 005.jpg
Views:	87
Size:	200.7 KB
ID:	144581  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Sovereign November 2011 floor progress 006.jpg
Views:	94
Size:	284.8 KB
ID:	144582   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sovereign November 2011 floor progress 011.jpg
Views:	89
Size:	204.9 KB
ID:	144583  

__________________

__________________
ND10CentCan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011, 02:26 PM   #198
Rivet Master
 
Wabbiteer's Avatar
 
1973 27' Overlander
1972 29' Ambassador
St. Paul , Minnesota
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,912
Images: 2
Blog Entries: 2
A spool gun holds it value, many other people skip the initial purchase too... though its plain for all to see he really needs a TIG machine to fabricate that
__________________

__________________

Wabbiteer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011, 02:53 PM   #199
Rivet Master
 
r carl's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin , Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,057
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoyt View Post
Hi there,


Oh, I also chose a Hobart because they are 100% made in the US. I'm annoyed with Harbor Fright at the moment, that air rivet gun I bought worked for about 10 rivets before it quit functioning entirely. I had to break out the hand driven version so there was no way I'd consider a welder from Harbor Fright.

Pete
Sounds like their tires.
__________________
r carl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011, 06:05 PM   #200
Airstream Fanatic
 
ND10CentCan's Avatar

 
1976 31' Sovereign
1959 17' Pacer
1965 26' Overlander
Bismarck , North Dakota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,031
Images: 9
I see a TIG machine in our future

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wabbiteer View Post
A spool gun holds it value, many other people skip the initial purchase too... though its plain for all to see he really needs a TIG machine to fabricate that
I think he needs encouragement on the tool side of things....he may think he has enough tools sometimes when actually he needs something else on this restoration project for the Albatross.

In reality, he is pretty conservative on the tools-only gets what he figures he needs and nothing more to the point he will figure how many screws he needs and only buy that number. Drives me nuts because I am usually the person who runs back to town to get some more. So I believe we may have a spool gun and or TIG machine in our future. Uffda...they are expensive! Guess I know what I am getting for my birthday.
Sandy
__________________
ND10CentCan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011, 06:11 PM   #201
Top
Always learning
 
Top's Avatar
 
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,779
Images: 24
Blog Entries: 2
Send a message via Yahoo to Top
Hey Sandy,
Nice progress! I guess I'm not picturing what the problem with the wheel well is. The wheel well is sandwiched between the frame and the floor, then the outer portion is riveted to the exterior shell. I had to modify the new wheel wells, with a sort of extension. The channel you have a picture of is the double U/C floor channel. The wheel well isn't attached to this piece. You can purchase it from any Airstream dealer. Try ODMRV. They have to special order the channel. Here is their catalog listing.
As for the rear hold down plate, I'd use stainless steel or thicker aluminum.
__________________
Lance

Work is never done, so take time to play!
Top is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011, 06:18 PM   #202
Airstream Fanatic
 
ND10CentCan's Avatar

 
1976 31' Sovereign
1959 17' Pacer
1965 26' Overlander
Bismarck , North Dakota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,031
Images: 9
Thanks Top!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top View Post
Hey Sandy,
Nice progress! I guess I'm not picturing what the problem with the wheel well is. The wheel well is sandwiched between the frame and the floor, then the outer portion is riveted to the exterior shell. I had to modify the new wheel wells, with a sort of extension. The channel you have a picture of is the double U/C floor channel. The wheel well isn't attached to this piece. You can purchase it from any Airstream dealer. Try ODMRV. They have to special order the channel. Here is their catalog listing.
As for the rear hold down plate, I'd use stainless steel or thicker aluminum.
Thanks for the info Top,
I think I need an Airstream parts store in town for all of the stuff we are ending up ordering from faraway lands. The shipping ends up to be a large part of the purchase. At least it is still available anyway. Looks like another order going out from ND pretty soon.
Sandy
__________________
ND10CentCan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2011, 09:28 PM   #203
2 Rivet Member
 
jslowery's Avatar
 
1980 24' Caravelle
Lufkin , Texas
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 41
Images: 4
Good luck with the wheel wells. I do not know if I need new ones or not. I intended to repair the ones I have with a plastic welder but the welder would not heat up. Why did you replace yours?

Everything is looking great.
__________________
jslowery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2011, 09:54 PM   #204
Airstream Fanatic
 
ND10CentCan's Avatar

 
1976 31' Sovereign
1959 17' Pacer
1965 26' Overlander
Bismarck , North Dakota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,031
Images: 9
Plastic welder?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jslowery View Post
Good luck with the wheel wells. I do not know if I need new ones or not. I intended to repair the ones I have with a plastic welder but the welder would not heat up. Why did you replace yours?

Everything is looking great.
Thanks for the interest and the comments...now I have to ask, what is a plastic welder? Never heard of that and these forums are great to learn new things. Just curious....

Our well wheels were broken-large crack on one and the other one had a galvanized metal patch on it from a PO. We got the new wheel wells awhile back and found they don't fit the original hardware that holds them to the shell. It was back to the drawing board on that one.

I think I may have found a source for the channel to replace the old stuff and hopefully get it to fit our new wheel wells. It will take awhile to get here. The ND winter will not wait that long and our shell is sitting outside still propped up on blocks like it has been for a year. We had hoped to have it back on the frame a long time ago. Progress is slow and some days it seems like we go backwards.

The good news is that I saw another small vintage AS today headed east in Bismarck. I held myself back from chasing it down and asking if I could take a look at it....and see if it was for sale .
Sandy
__________________
ND10CentCan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2011, 08:18 AM   #205
Rivet Master
 
clancy_boy's Avatar
 
2003 22' International CCD
Kiln , Mississippi
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,780
Images: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by ND10CentCan View Post
I am curious why every project step involves the purchase of more tools?
Sandy

That's funny, we men always wondered why a new dress always required a new pair of shoes......
__________________
Michael & Tina with Layla and Preston BZ
The family has grown.
2003 22' INTERNATIONAL CCD
clancy_boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2011, 08:32 AM   #206
Rivet Master
 
Splitrock's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
Sioux Falls , South Dakota
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,398
Blog Entries: 20
Doesn't Bismarck have any metal fabricators? Back in the 80's I did business with a company in West Fargo that made farm equipment and did job work. Those guys could make about anything from metal. There were quite a few metal fabrication businesses in West Fargo. I wonder if your parts are closer to home than you thought.
__________________
Click on the link to see a picture of the Sioux River falls near my home.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...g?t=1278182564
Eastern South Dakota is very pretty with hills, rivers, and trees.
Splitrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2011, 06:52 PM   #207
2 Rivet Member
 
jslowery's Avatar
 
1980 24' Caravelle
Lufkin , Texas
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 41
Images: 4
A plastic welder is just a heat gun with a small tip. You can use filler rods to rebuild pieces or you can repair cracks by just heating and massaging pieces back together with a metal rod.

Plastics are either thermo set or thermo plastic. You can only weld the thermo plastic type. I have not tested my wheel wells to see If they will weld. There is an inner and outer shell and one is black and the other tan. I think they Are different plastics as well.

My company purchased one for a job and it worked great. I was excited to use it but the heat element must have burnt out when it was used last. I have seen some wheel wells fabricated from sheet metal, I may do that.
__________________
jslowery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2011, 08:19 PM   #208
Airstream Fanatic
 
ND10CentCan's Avatar

 
1976 31' Sovereign
1959 17' Pacer
1965 26' Overlander
Bismarck , North Dakota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,031
Images: 9
It is all clear now

Quote:
Originally Posted by clancy_boy View Post
That's funny, we men always wondered why a new dress always required a new pair of shoes......
I think it is the same principle. This analogy makes a lot of sense to me now. I think we will have tons of new tools when this adventure if over. If it is ever over that is....
Sandy
__________________
ND10CentCan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2011, 08:21 PM   #209
Airstream Fanatic
 
ND10CentCan's Avatar

 
1976 31' Sovereign
1959 17' Pacer
1965 26' Overlander
Bismarck , North Dakota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,031
Images: 9
Good idea...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitrock View Post
Doesn't Bismarck have any metal fabricators? Back in the 80's I did business with a company in West Fargo that made farm equipment and did job work. Those guys could make about anything from metal. There were quite a few metal fabrication businesses in West Fargo. I wonder if your parts are closer to home than you thought.
Thanks Splitrock,
I did talk to a couple of people today so I am going to see what can be done locally. I will need all of the channel that holds the wheel wells down and enough channel for the entire skin to be replaced on the frame. Does anyone know how much channel I need to do a trailer this size?
Sandy
__________________
ND10CentCan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2011, 08:32 PM   #210
Airstream Fanatic
 
ND10CentCan's Avatar

 
1976 31' Sovereign
1959 17' Pacer
1965 26' Overlander
Bismarck , North Dakota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,031
Images: 9
Hmm...welding plastic

Quote:
Originally Posted by jslowery View Post
A plastic welder is just a heat gun with a small tip. You can use filler rods to rebuild pieces or you can repair cracks by just heating and massaging pieces back together with a metal rod.

Plastics are either thermo set or thermo plastic. You can only weld the thermo plastic type. I have not tested my wheel wells to see If they will weld. There is an inner and outer shell and one is black and the other tan. I think they Are different plastics as well.

My company purchased one for a job and it worked great. I was excited to use it but the heat element must have burnt out when it was used last. I have seen some wheel wells fabricated from sheet metal, I may do that.
That is good to know. It is a learning adventure every day in this Airstream business. Our wheel wells were too wrecked to even try to repair and since we didn't know anything about plastic welding...too late. The good thing is now that we know about it, we might be able to use that on another project.

We also figured since we are basically rebuilding it from the ground up, we are going to do it right the first time. So that means we are spending a ton now in hopes we will enjoy this trailer for years and years.

The new outer wheel wells that we ordered online look good and my husband is going to try to build the inner wheel wells using aluminum. This is part of the reason he wants the spool gun for welding. I think he will use it for a number of things which might include building a cabinet to lock up my computer and phone so I can't find anymore Airstreams to buy.
Sandy
__________________

__________________
ND10CentCan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
frame, repair


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help in fixing leaks during frame up restore badelson Leaks - Weatherstrips, Gaskets, Caulks & Sealants 11 08-04-2009 10:22 PM
Big Job turned into bigger JOB, need advice. lebolewis Waste Systems, Tanks & Totes 10 11-16-2006 06:28 AM
Hello - DYI network info? higgy116 Member Introductions 5 04-06-2006 01:37 PM
Take this job and shove..... zduke4x Off Topic Forum 9 10-11-2003 08:02 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.