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09-08-2017, 09:36 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
downers grove
, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 14
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Safe to tow stripped chassis?
I'm doing a shell off on a 76 Sovereign. Frame is out, I have removed all the plywood flooring and tanks, basically have just the rolling chassis. I understand how the shell and frame work together to provide stiffness but wow that the frame really flexes with nothing on it. Is it safe to tow in this condition? Frame needs some repair. My "free" welding services are 200 miles away, or keep it local and pay $$....thanks
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09-08-2017, 09:47 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 30' Safari
Montgomery
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 385
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I think it'd be easiest to pay the welder. Dicey stuff you're wading into, but it's been done with lots of interior bracing with wood and straps. Fuel/time alone outweighs free welding...
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09-08-2017, 12:29 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,744
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Hi
How safe it is depends a *lot* on what shape it's in. Since you are taking it for welding, that suggests it may be compromised.
Bob
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09-08-2017, 02:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,632
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Bob nailed it. If it's fairly structurally sound then it is ok. If you have severe rust through that portions are significantly weakened and in a condition of possibly falling apart, then no.
What do you have to get welded. A few outriggers or cross members or big sections of frame.
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09-08-2017, 03:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 28
Springville
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 836
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If you towed the whole trailer home then just towing the frame will be fine. I had a 74 argosy 24 footer that I recycled the aluminum and keep the frame for few years as a flat bed trailer. It needed the back half replaced. I attached some plywood and all was good. It will bounce since it has no load but will be ok.
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09-08-2017, 03:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 28
Springville
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 836
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Yep
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09-08-2017, 04:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 30' Safari
Montgomery
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 385
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Circling back I see I misread the OP's intent. I thought the shell was still on, my mistake. I'd still really weigh the fuel and time it's going to cost for free welding. 200 miles each way is a haul. Unless you just really don't have any decent welding services close, I'd still think you'd come out far ahead just paying a local welder. "Free" stuff has cost me more money than I'd ever care to admit...
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09-09-2017, 05:05 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Middletown
, California
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 424
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As mentioned the time and fuel to drag it to the free welder is worth some $ consideration. However a few 2 X 6's on edge could also be used to tie the frame together for towing if it was really rusty. Then use the 2 X's to make forms for the parking slab for after the trailer is done! There is always a work around for any problem!
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09-09-2017, 07:18 PM
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2 Rivet Member
oz
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJJ76
I'm doing a shell off on a 76 Sovereign. Frame is out, I have removed all the plywood flooring and tanks, basically have just the rolling chassis. I understand how the shell and frame work together to provide stiffness but wow that the frame really flexes with nothing on it. Is it safe to tow in this condition? Frame needs some repair. My "free" welding services are 200 miles away, or keep it local and pay $$....thanks
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I will let you know in a couple of weeks. I bought a 63 overlander frame in Columbia SC. I am packing the bearings, putting a set of temp lights on it and towing it to E.TN. about 400 miles.
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09-11-2017, 06:22 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
downers grove
, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 14
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thanks everyone for the replies. I was wondering if I would get a bunch of "no that's a terrible idea" responses...at least there are mixed opinions. keeping it local is the preferred route though. fwiw, there's only one section of the main frame rail in the rear that is bad, but a whole bunch of outriggers to do.
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09-11-2017, 07:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 28
Springville
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 836
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You'll not have any issues towing for sure. I replaced 15 outriggers on mine and had to rear end too. Very common.
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09-11-2017, 08:55 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Unless you see holes in the main the main frame rail inflate the tires according to the weight they support and tow away. Just don't take the bumpiest roads you can find. The strain on the trailer while towing on smooth surfaces will not be that much different than just sitting.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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