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Old 01-30-2010, 09:45 PM   #43
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2air,
I had this exact conversation with 2vets, & asked them to come over & view their trailer along with it's damage................in the flesh. It's always better to find out what the clients ultimate goal with the trailer is, then fill them in on what the capabilities are of a well thought out restoration/refurbishment, & how to move in that direction. I also ask what their budget is, & then fill them in on what typical full restorations cost. I do a lot of work for clients who want/need to keep the costs down, which is why I always try to feel out what amount of sweat equity they are willing to put in & where their expertise lies. I don't want to work on "bodged" trailers & refuse to "bodge", even when requested to do so. I feel it is an injustice to the Airstream product & to the longevity of the trailer itself, not to mention the safety aspect of it. The key is to get another neglected Airstream back on the road again that is structurally sound & safe for travel adventures, even as an "aluminum tent" if need be. When this is done correctly, it invariably gets completed to a high degree by someone eventually, even if it's not done by the client with the original vision. 2vets have a vision that makes sense & they realize it'll take more time & $ than they originally hoped (this happens to all of us), however by doing things correctly from the outset, they or a future owner will not have to re do anything..........................for another 40+ years. SOB's will never have that option, as they are designed & built as "throw aways".............an unfortunate fact of today's society.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:33 PM   #44
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'62 has been smoking that vintage awning rope again...

and it's dr PUNX phil 2 u mister...

(as in he looked UNDER the belly pan, the shadow of RUST was seen, so it's back into the hole for another 6 weeks)
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hi colin

i agree completely that building or starting from good bones matters...

and doing the job RIGHT means another few decades for the shell...

and maybe a few more owners.

it's good to read you had the "talk" with the owner/s...

but she did start/open the thread this'a way, suggesting a HOLE in her information trail...

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I desperately need opinions from airforums members on what I should do!....
so 2 things crossed my synapses as i keyed the reply...

1. desperate is not a word that should be associated with a RECREATIONAL vehicle rehab...

2. the sentence does NOT end with a question mark...

which is IMPORTANT for all us XYz to remember, when supplying answers.

often what appears to be a question from an XX...

is really just a segue to the next part of a bonding converstation with OTHER XXs...

XYz tend to TRY answering questions, n solving problems (vulcans OR groundhogs) when often the XX

just wants to vent.

in the primordial sense it's a neanderthal girl thing....

XXs just wanna jabber about things, groom, pick bugs outta each others hair and huddle 2getha...

the quote might as well been something like this...

"gorban won't let me REdecorate the cave, what SHOULD i do!"

ok, time to TELEPORT ahead to the past...

cheers
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:39 PM   #45
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Dammit Jim! 2vets is a doctor, not a restorer!
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:44 PM   #46
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Thank you for your comments 2air- I appreciate your honesty since it IS such a huge undertaking, both financially and emotionally! I have read many posts from you on this forums and I have always found them insightful. What I find difficult is to try to sort out the total costs of owning an airstream when you have no idea what you are going to uncover next.. which is true for any used trailer whatever the age.

However, I am not sure what you mean by "what is one of the MOST common procedures performed by vets and why is it done???". The vast majority of patients I see come in for wellness exams,routine surgeries, followed by various metabolic ailments on which diarrhea tops the list (particularly if you own a lab who has dietary indiscretion as his middle name!). If you are talking about euthanasia of pets, that is a TEENY fraction of our medical profession, and I consider it a blessing in veterinary medicine. The ability to end an animal's suffering if we are unable to control their pain or halt their critical disease is not a financial decision but a personal family decision. It is a decision that I have had to make on my own pets.


We are NOT looking for a vintage beauty that will cause people to envy us as we drive by. We will be going to state campgrounds with no hookups. We will be putting back her appliances that work and her insides with her slightly chipped veneer. We will be putting one fantastic fan in so she will not be airless, perhaps two if we are feeling really "flush". If we live without a bathroom and running water for a year or three we will not be crushed since we are tenters and living in an aluminum tent would be like a palace in comparison.We will not be polishing her. Our original intent was to live with her crudely for a year after replacing her axle and floor but the rotten frame added a frost heave to our plans. Thank you for everyone's input, it has been truly appreciated!
Very well said. We have also only known tents, I daydream about going out in Bonnie even as an empty ALUMINUM PALACE it would be a luxury compared to a tent. Porta-potti, hard floor, Yea Baby!
We will polish Bonnie one panel at a time. Aircraft Stripper from Advance Auto $18 qt brush on wait rinse off. (to remove old finish). Then Diamond Shine from lowes $12 a bottle use an electric buffer ( got ours from flea market, still sealed in box, $12). Might take us months 1 panel at a time but who cares. Susan.
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Dammit Jim! 2vets is a doctor, not a restorer!
with a wallet that's about to...

"explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where MANY wallets have gone before...."

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Old 01-30-2010, 11:53 PM   #48
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'62 has been smoking that vintage awning rope again...

and it's dr PUNX phil 2 u mister...

(as in he looked UNDER the belly pan, the shadow of RUST was seen, so it's back into the hole for another 6 weeks)
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so 2 things crossed my synapses as i keyed the reply...

1. desperate is not a word that should be associated with a RECREATIONAL vehicle rehab...

2. the sentence does NOT end with a question mark...

which is IMPORTANT for all us XYz to remember, when supplying answers.

often what appears to be a question from an XX...

is really just a segue to the next part of a bonding converstation with OTHER XXs...

XYz tend to TRY answering questions, n solving problems (vulcans OR groundhogs) when often the XX

just wants to vent.

in the primordial sense it's a neanderthal girl thing....

XXs just wanna jabber about things, groom, pick bugs outta each others hair and huddle 2getha...

the quote might as well been something like this...

"gorban won't let me REdecorate the cave, what SHOULD i do!"

ok, time to TELEPORT ahead to the past...

cheers
2air'
What the!!!!!!!
Who's been smoking the awning rope??
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:21 PM   #49
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2air,
2vets came over a couple of days after the thread started, which is when i "had the talk".
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:44 PM   #50
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If you stop and sell her now you will have to start the hunt all over again, and you will have to inspect the new candidates top to bottom, chances are one that you find will need typ stuff like axles anyhow, and if you like this vintage you will have to add a grey tank to the one you find. The inside looks really special. Its only money. If I were in your shoes I'd get her fixed and go campin and make some memories!
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I would go ahead and replace the frame.
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:07 PM   #52
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I'd sure like to see an update on this thread. What's the status of Colin's work? Pics would be great!
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:50 PM   #53
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Apparently it has been gutted & is ready to be brought over. All i need to do now is to fit it into the schedule. As soon as the work begins, photos will be sent to 2vets.
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Old 06-05-2010, 08:26 AM   #54
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While we are waiting in line for Colin Hyde we decided to take her home to do some of the "grunt" work! We removed the interior panels and Colin had us vulkem all major seams and rivets. See photo below. We should be taking her over to him in the next week or so but I am not sure when he will be actually working on her! We promise to send lots of photos!
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Hi!

Did you decide on a frame patch, section repair, or a complete replacement?

Inquiring minds want to know!
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It is still at Colin Hyde's waiting in line. I promise to keep everyone in the loop! I just went camping with the family the past two days and it rained so hard we converted our sleeping bags into water beds. Yuck. I can't wait to get into a trailer and be more than 3 inches above the ground.
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