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Old 03-08-2009, 04:06 PM   #15
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Others on this board who have tackled similar projects have $10,000 $15,000 or more in them plus a year or 2 of spare time work and still are not finished.

Yep, he's right we're getting close!

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Old 03-08-2009, 04:22 PM   #16
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I do know the feeling about having to fix something like that. I intended to remodel my trailer when I bought it, but found a crack in the frame and decided to pop the shell of to do the repairs. Here's where I'm at in my project:



It's really not all that bad. I've learned a lot and doing something like this really makes it feel like "your own" so to speak.

I've invested about every weekend since late December and this is where I'm at. Once I get the frame fixed and back underneath my shell, I'm hoping that the rest of the remodel will go a little quicker, but probably not

Anyways, just wanted to share and let you know that the fix can be done. I knew practically nothing about Airstream's when I bought mine except that I wanted one! Now I'm feeling like an Airstream mechanic Have fun and certainly use the forums. They've helped me out quite a bit.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:19 PM   #17
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Everyone has different resources—time, money, expertise and desire to tackle a major restoration project. This must feel pretty awful. You haven't gotten a lot of good news here. I have no idea what kind of laws Texas has (or wherever you bought it), but I suspect if there's a Consumer Protection Act it probably does not apply to private sales. Nonetheless, if the previous owner won't refund your money, if he assured you it was in good condition or could be camped in right away, you may have a claim for misrepresentation (easier claim to prove than fraud) or promissory estoppel (basically that you wouldn't have bought it except for his promises). We have no idea what you paid for it, so maybe it wasn't a bad deal for what you got. And it's good that you found out about this right away. Depending on how much you have into this, you may need help (lawyer) if the previous owner won't budge. I hope not.

If you have to tow it anywhere, you'd better make sure the tires are ok—10 years sitting means bad tires, wheel bearings needing repacking, possibly bad wheel bearing seals, seized up brakes. The wiring for the brake and taillights may be bad, and the wires to the brakes may also.

Some people would look at this as a challenge and an opportunity to learn everything about their new baby. I would not be one of them even though I have certainly taken on some big challenges. No shame in trying to getting out of this. Good luck!

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Old 03-08-2009, 10:20 PM   #18
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Our Guys here in WV @ Shermantic Service have done 2 now and would be happy to give estimates on doing the 3rd! We pride in quality work.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:49 AM   #19
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Gee I hope Fat&Lazy didn't get scared off. Maybe he is just trying to regroup his thoughts on how he should fix the problems or maybe he is trying to get his many back.

Either way I hope he reports back, so we know how he made out.

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Old 03-09-2009, 08:52 AM   #20
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This is, by no means, an endorsement nor, to be taken as a recommendation for.
I found this by "Google" just as anyone else could.
So, you do have options..
1.Jackson Center, Ohio
2.Andy's InlandRV in Ca
3.Griffith R.V.

http://www.griffithrvservice.com/

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Address: 8113 S.W. 15th
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Directions: Exit 142 off I-40
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Turn south on Council Road
mile to S.W. 15th
Turn west to Griffith R.V.

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Old 03-09-2009, 09:31 AM   #21
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Well it well may be that he/she did get scared off. That would be unfortunate for both them and us.
I know I hate an unfinished story.
And Fat&Lazy will never find a better more receptive shoulder to lean/cry on than you guys.

The Good the Bad and the Ugly AISI (as I see it)

  • You are anonymous (so far) on this forum Fat&Lazy so it would make advice giving alot easier if we knew what you paid.
  • We also need to know the floor plan. Where is the bathroom? Where and how many the beds?
  • Depending on the price you may still have gotten a good deal.
  • The size of the trailer (Tradewind) is a plus for you.
  • The year (1971) is ok = no plus but no great negative either.
Your woes may be less than any of us or you know. But it is gonna take some more revelation of the "basement" for us to determine that.
WARNING You must be careful removing the edge aluminum (rub rail-trim and banana wrap*). Why? Because you will play hell and pay well for exact replacement pieces. (Prob not find at all)
The actual belly (underneath) skin is no picnic to re-hang either. But is not as critical to find replacement for as the above mentioned items. Still do not remove any more than necessary. Start at rear obviously. Try to always remove any part in way to re-use and replace same part without finding replacement.
*if you don't know what these are...ASK NOW. Don't guess.

Additionally if you forum nickname "Fat&Lazy" is in any way accurate of you, you may really have problems. There is too little crawl space underneath already and you are gonna have to do alot of writhing around on your back and knees to get a good look, not to mention do the repairs.

WARNING If you plan to raise the trailer to get more work or looking room, be very careful how and WHERE you place any jacks or blocks or stands.
Come back here and ask how and where FIRST. Not only could it fall and kill you, more likely you will do more serious damage to the trailer itself.
It isn't hard or expensive to do the lifting right.

Lastly to pay us for all this good, great, and FREE information, just do us two favors in return:
  • Tell us the whole stories, (truth)
  • Let us know what the outcomes are. (don't leave us hanging)
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:17 AM   #22
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Our Guys here in WV @ Shermantic Service have done 2 now and would be happy to give estimates on doing the 3rd! We pride in quality work.
You should re-classify your info to read..

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Old 03-09-2009, 10:43 AM   #23
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By the Way the following WARNING is not just for your own savings as an owner, but IMHO if the rub-rail and the Banana Wrap is all "boogered" up or missing, the resale value immediately drops at least $1500 dollars.
Remember you may want to sell yourself out of this potential misery.

Also I know there are plenty of 'ol boys' in East Texas near you who can handle this challenge and might make good buyers. Course if ya misrepresent it to em in a sale too much, they may just "handle" a seller too.


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WARNING You must be careful removing the edge aluminum (rub rail-trim and banana wrap*). Why? Because you will play hell and pay well for exact replacement pieces. (Prob not find at all)
The actual belly (underneath) skin is no picnic to re-hang either. But is not as critical to find replacement for as the above mentioned items. Still do not remove any more than necessary. Start at rear obviously. Try to always remove any part in way to re-use and replace same part without finding replacement.
*if you don't know what these are...ASK NOW. Don't guess.
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:07 PM   #24
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i an still here just trying to take it all in i am still somewhat overwhelmed to tell the truth i have never backed down from a project this is just a lot more than i was planing to get into i paid 3200.00 for the trailer with the idea that i would be doing a lot of manly clean up work it is a rear bath stand up shower and toilet and sink the ac works do not know about the furnace or water heater to tell the truth i am leaning towards running but do not want to lie to anyone and just dump it my daddy rased me to be onist sometimes i wonder what i have done to desurve things like this well so much for crying thanks for all of your help and advice stay in tuch will still be here
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:21 PM   #25
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I can understand your desire to stand by the deal you made. I think most people want to do that. But, when someone doesn't disclose something they should be aware of when they offer something for sale, then I think it's ok to get your money back.

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Old 03-09-2009, 03:42 PM   #26
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hey fat&lazy - I felt much the same as you after I found a few problems with my trailer ... within an hour of proudly posting my picture of me & my A/S, I found that the axles were "shot". A couple days later I found that the original converter/charger had been removed. The window/door gaskets are also "shot". It has a couple leaks - which, when I started to investigate this weekend, showed a terrible mess on the roof - weeks worth of work to reseal. And lastly, that my tow vehicle is less than optimum - necessitating me finding/purchasing a new truck! I am a single gal, so all this work seems daunting. But, I've managed to wrap my head around it and plug away. HOWEVER, if I had the issues yours has, I probably couldn't do the needed work -- my skills an time are just too precious. So, if you decide not to tackle the trailer, don't feel bad. It is way more than you expected and you can dedicate your time/money/energy/mind to another worthy cause - which could be (or not) another less-deteriorated airstream! To me, it just wouldn't be any fun trying to fix those problems without the ability to camp in it as well.....
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:19 PM   #27
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OK you paid a bit too much. So what? So have many of us. Myself included.
If you ever made it primo it would be worth 8-12 thousand bucks IMHO.
But why go that far? That would never happen if you are really Lazy.
Price you paid.....That's history Forget about that and decide whether now do you want to make up for it?
Are you planning on pulling this trailer for travel or parking it on Lake Palestine or some such cabin use?
You just need to CAREFULLY plan what you want and can afford to do to it and how much you can do yourself. That Lazy title though will have to go or you will lose.


If you just make it water and vermin proof and make the systems work to some extent, it is not a bad price for a cabin.
If you are gonna travel with it your costs will prob be a bit more. Or just do it right the first time if you can. Then you can do anything you decide with it.
Remember to not throw anything away (cept for insulation and rat crap & so on) until you are sure you dont need it for patterns or replacement.
Oh and be extra careful with any glass (windows). Break one and you'll spend hundreds for just one replacement sometimes (usually).

Your black tank is apparently above floor which is a plus in this case.
If you are lucky then the rot and rust is confined to the rear section. Possibly due to leak from above or down vent or from leaking toilet or sink fixtures etc.
First thing you need to do is stop the leaking. Do not use silicone.

you are gonna have to fix floor and frame back there at the very least.
Can you weld? well?
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:08 PM   #28
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hold on a second... I have been lurking here, not wanting to comment, but I feel I should. Yes, your axles are probably bad and should be replaced but that is about as relevant as which grade of Nuvite to start with right now. I can safely say that your frame is a serious issue. That is not just simple cutting out and patching in. That is serious frame rot. Just seeing the amount you have shown does not bode well for the rest of it. Sorry man, just trying to be realistic here. It is fixable, as anything is... well not everything the leaning tower of Pisa is still leaning and short of a miracle will slowly continue to feel the effects of gravity. You have a major task ahead of you. The end WILL justify the means it takes I can promise you that. This project is something you can do, but will require a lot of dedication. You might even have to ask some help,but you will get there. As I said earlier, the end WILL justify the means.
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