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Old 05-01-2015, 10:35 AM   #1
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Patch the flooring or replace it all?

We're going to have to have the front floor replaced and the vinyl flooring above it is in bad shape, lots of mold stain underneath. I think it's leaking at the window and we're taking it to Jackson Center to have all the work done. I've removed the L-couch and cabinet so there's nothing forward of the door.

The floor from the doorway back is OK, I've peeled the vinyl back to the doorway and I can see good clean wood aft of that front plywood.

So here's my dilemma. The wife wants to replace it all, front to back. That means AS will have to remove everything (won't they?) and lay down the new floor. For now, I want to put in something else in the front (laminate e.g.) with a short strip where old meets the new. Between the sink and fridge it's fairly narrow. I want it to look nice but there will be a definite change between the two areas.

My thinking is, I want to be sure the leak is stopped before taking out everything and laying down a new floor. Also, if I wait, I can probably remove most of the other furniture myself and have someone else lay the flooring.

Thoughts? Advice?
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Old 05-01-2015, 12:08 PM   #2
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if it is just sheet vinyl on the floor, I don't see why they would need to remove everything to change it out, just cut along the perimeter. When they put the flooring in during construction, they lay it down all over and build on top because its much easier to do it that way. But I see no reason why you cant leave it underneath the cabinets and just put down something new on top. Lots of folks replace with plank flooring, its a fairly easy DIY job for most people.

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I left carpet under cabinets and razor cut and trimmed so none show. Installed laminate flooring 2 years ago and it is great!
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Old 05-01-2015, 12:35 PM   #4
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Find the leak first. Then you have lots of flooring options. You can cut around most stuff without a problem. Most folks can DYI it, with laminate, vinyl planks, or cork. I did the Allure vinyl planks in our AS.
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If you are talking about replacing all of the plywood.... That is a lot of work, a shell off...

I wonder what JC would charge for this?

Probably the sheet of ply in the back is shot too.

If it was mine, I would not worry about replacing wood that is still good unless the rot was more than about 25% of the entire floor.

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If you are talking about replacing all of the plywood.... That is a lot of work, a shell off...
Just the front portion is bad, one spot would probably go through to the belly pan if I pushed. We felt that soft spot this January when we were in Florida. As far as I know, the rest is OK, certainly the floor in the galley is in good shape. Back by the left rear corner is iffy. I'm going to see what AS will charge for it all.
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Old 05-01-2015, 02:32 PM   #7
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Thanks, everyone, I appreciate the quick responses. On such a pretty day too. You should be outside playing

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if it is just sheet vinyl on the floor, I don't see why they would need to remove everything to change it out, just cut along the perimeter. When they put the flooring in during construction, they lay it down all over and build on top because its much easier to do it that way. But I see no reason why you cant leave it underneath the cabinets and just put down something new on top. Lots of folks replace with plank flooring, its a fairly easy DIY job for most people.
Hmm, well, that's good to know, I thought it all had to come out. What I've taken up so far isn't glued down, just lays on top, stapled at the edges. Is that normal?

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I left carpet under cabinets and razor cut and trimmed so none show. Installed laminate flooring 2 years ago and it is great!
I'm thinking laminate but then, that's me, not momma. I'm really glad to see several replies about just cutting at the edges and laying down new.

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Find the leak first. Then you have lots of flooring options. You can cut around most stuff without a problem. Most folks can DYI it, with laminate, vinyl planks, or cork. I did the Allure vinyl planks in our AS.
Yes, fix the leak, that's why I want to wait a while before putting anything new down. The Allure looks interesting, I see it at Lowes and Home Depot. Is that interlocking or does it glue down?
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The allure glues together with sticky sides, and is a floating floor. the only down side I found so far is the seams will collect dirt as they expand and contract. Not a big deal with a darker floor, but could be very noticeable with a light colored floor.

As noted above, sections of the sub flooring can be replaced. The labor can range greatly depending on what needs to be done.
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Thanks, Silver. I may opt to try this myself. If I can convince the wife to allow me to just roll back the existing flooring and wait for a while to make sure the leaks are solved. Then I can remove the old flooring, maybe paint the floor black or put down black layer of something. Then, assuming I get the green light from you know who, I'll put in the Allure. A project for this fall.
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Replace the plywood if it is bad and saturate with epoxy before install.
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:17 PM   #11
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P$S Trailer Service in Helena OHIO do a lot of this kind of work on Airstreams. I have seen some of their work on flooring after complete interior removal and they only change the rotted sections. For the vinyl flooring just cut around the cabinetry. I have seen lots of carpet and vinyl replacements by the pros and they only trim back to the cabinets. The advantage of vinyl under or inside the cabinets is that is it waterproof from the top side and protection against water getting onto the subfloor from a leak above the flooring.

Be thoughtful about what you use for new flooring. At one of our seminars we were warned to use the best quality laminate if we were going that route, since cheaper laminate is not moisture/wet proof and swells if it gets soaked by a spill.

I purchased bamboo flooring for out old trailer and then decided against it because of the extra weight...that is another consideration

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We replaced the vinyl flooring in our Classic as we were already having issues with the factory installation. We installed a product called Marmoleum by Farbo and it was under the dinette and sofa since they were out for other work and cut in on the rest of the trailer. We put round hickory trim on the edges to hide the joints. This is a plus down product.

While this was expensive, it is at least twice as thick as the factory stuff and the color is thru the entire thickness, so no white spot if a small gouge happens.

Just something else to consider.

The factory only installs what is on their rolls in the shop. We did get a different pattern initially (after I caught the wrong one already installed on the line and they had to remove parts of the cabinets already in the put down the correct ordered and approved flooring). Watch like a hawk while the work happens. It is good to be there to answer questions when they come up.
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I have had a fair amount of work done at Jackson Center, I would take their advise on what to do. I think they know their stuff.
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The allure glues together with sticky sides, and is a floating floor. the only down side I found so far is the seams will collect dirt as they expand and contract. Not a big deal with a darker floor, but could be very noticeable with a light colored floor.
Allure also comes in an interlocking version. Personally, I think that's a better option. I installed this a couple of years ago & we are quite happy with it. MUCH better than the factory flooring.

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