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Old 05-17-2015, 07:15 AM   #29
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Thanks for the info, but I'm gong to let Jackson Center take a look at it and repair. I want them to find and fix the leaks then they can take out the front piece of wood (forward of the door) and replace it. It may need more, which is why I'm taking it to them. I just don't have the work area at home.
If that's an option for you, (taking it to JC), I would think that makes the most sense. I pulled out most of the interior to do mine, & it's a big messy job.

Unfortunately, I understand that they have seen a lot of this sort of problem and have lots of experience with jobs like this.

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Thanks for the info, but I'm gong to let Jackson Center take a look at it and repair. I want them to find and fix the leaks then they can take out the front piece of wood (forward of the door) and replace it. It may need more, which is why I'm taking it to them. I just don't have the work area at home.
Yeah, you're no too far away from them.
I grew up in Ohio but now I'm way out west.
Hopefully you can get back out there before next winter comes.
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:07 PM   #31
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Update

So the wife and I are here in Jackson Center with our AS. I had them do the pressure test, where they pressurize the inside while the outside is covered in a soap water solution. Blow a bubble and it's found a leak. Good news, there were only minimal bubbles, pin holes really. They will give me the final report at check out so I can see where to repair. Only one area was more than a pin hole, in the left front window at the top seal.

They put it in the bay where they put all the new trailers to test for leaks, using a strong, fine water spray. Again, more good news. They found no leaks at all. That water comes from all sides; top, front, left and right.

They feel that the PO repaired the leak but failed to dry out the floor. With that insulation under the floor they say it just sits there like a sponge and eventually rots the floor. That's their guess as to what happened

They are able to salvage the edges on that front section. The cross members are where they cut the old board out and removed those large phillips screws. They will insert a new piece of plywood on the cross members, screw it down and reseal. (That black paint around the edges was started around the year 2000 and is a water proofing paint. We saw it on the floors of the new ones when we went for the tour.)

I asked about replacing the vinyl flooring by just cutting at the edges of the installed cabinets. They said they will only install new vinyl by removing everything from the interior. The only exception would be the shower, IF, there was no evidence of soft soft sub-floor in front of the shower. They were talking in terms of days / weeks to do this, at $125/hour. We opted to let them use a bleaching agent on the vinyl and it looked pretty good when they finished. (I can opt to remove everything or most everything myself and have them do the rest, in order to save money.)

Finally, although there were no leaks found in the roof, it needed to be resealed. They recommend it be done every 3-5 years. So, in for a penny, in for a pound.

This going to cost A LOT of money but we should be in pretty good shape for several years. We're feeling better about our purchase now that we know there aren't any serious leaks anywhere. We'll get this behind us and really enjoy the next trip.

Trivia question: Do you know what there is to do in Jackson Center after you've taken the Airstream factory tour?
Answer: Drive over to Columbus, takes about an hour.

The folks at the customer service center were very nice and just walking around and looking at the old and new AS was a real treat. But we're looking forward to picking up our AS and heading home.
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:23 PM   #32
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The Air Force Museum is in the Dayton area. There is a B-29 in there.
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Old 06-13-2015, 09:11 AM   #33
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The Air Force Museum is in the Dayton area. There is a B-29 in there.
Agreed, but that's not in Jackson Center Anyhow, I was being facetious. We spent the better part of a day in Sidney, about 12 miles away. We stopped at the courthouse, which was undergoing renovation. The security guard gave us some information about not only the courthouse but also the bank building and the municipal/memorial building and their histories. We ate at "The Spot", a diner that has been operating since 1907. We also me a lot of very nice people who are very proud of their town. We stayed there at the Comfort Inn and had an excellent room and met some nice people at the Perkins restaurant, about 100 yards away.

The drive to Columbus was interesting, passing through Marysville, where the Honda plant is. I assume they have tours there. Indian Lake is about 12 miles from Jackson Center in the same direction. Close by, in Greenville, is the KitchenAid factory, which also has tours.

So there are things to do around Jackson Center, but not in Jackson Center, except for the Airstream factory tour, which is very nice too.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:10 AM   #34
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We were at Jackson Center 3 days.
Day 1 we did a tour of The American Bicycle Museum at New Bremen, OH in the morning and the Airstream Factory tour in the afternoon.
Day 2 we toured the Air Force Museum in Dayton.
Day 3 we hung around the service center waiting for the trailer.
We stayed in the trailer in the Terraport.
We ate lots of inexpensive, but unhealthy fried food-


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We were at Jackson Center 3 days.
Day 1 we did a tour of The American Bicycle Museum at New Bremen, OH in the morning and the Airstream Factory tour in the afternoon.
Day 2 we toured the Air Force Museum in Dayton.
Day 3 we hung around the service center waiting for the trailer.
We stayed in the trailer in the Terraport.
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I grew up in Dayton and never have been to the Air Force Museum. Did you like it?

Also how was the AS factory tour? Did you need to schedule the tour?
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The Air Force Museum is excellent. I have toured it twice. Wear good walking shoes. It is huge.
The factory tour is also great. Show up and sign up at 1 PM Monday-Friday. That's the extent of scheduling.
Next trip to Jackson Center we'll take a different route through Indiana and tour the Auburn/Cord/Duesenberg Museum, the Studebaker Museum, and the RV/Motorhome Hall of Fame.
In Ohio, I would like to go to the Tock 'N' Roll Hall of Fame.


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Old 06-15-2015, 02:07 PM   #37
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The wall covering "rabbit fur" behind the front storage area had some mold. When the tech finished with it, it was almost like new. I asked today what he used and the reply was bleach. They didn't say how much, but that was the cleaning agent.

Other areas, the visible ones, weren't so dirty but since we had everything out of the front, that made it easier to clean the fur. I have a Bissell Spot Lifter I got at a bargain price. I mixed the cleaner and oxygen booster with with water according to directions. It did a pretty good job and now the AS smells better and looks better.

Just thought I'd pass that along.
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If you find the mold comes back on the fabric, the next time you clean it add some trisodium phosphate to the cleaner. TSP will stop mold from growing on the traces of dirt left behind in the fabric and hopefully the mold spores were killed by the bleach. Some spores may still be present s they are pretty much everywhere.... The mold may not be due to a leak the next time, just humidity making the conditions right for mold to grow.
We had a spot on our carpet that kept coming back. Originally a pet stain. Treated with 1 tablespoon of TSP in 2 quarts of water and it has never come back.

You can do a carpet style steam cleaning with your shop vac; just soak the fabric and then immediately vacuum it dry.
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If you find the mold comes back on the fabric, the next time you clean it add some trisodium phosphate to the cleaner. TSP will stop mold from growing on the traces of dirt left behind in the fabric and hopefully the mold spores were killed by the bleach. Some spores may still be present s they are pretty much everywhere.... The mold may not be due to a leak the next time, just humidity making the conditions right for mold to grow.
We had a spot on our carpet that kept coming back. Originally a pet stain. Treated with 1 tablespoon of TSP in 2 quarts of water and it has never come back.

You can do a carpet style steam cleaning with your shop vac; just soak the fabric and then immediately vacuum it dry.
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Good information, thanks. The area that had the mold was behind the front storage unit which is behind the L-couch. I'd have to remove the storage unit to see the wall covering and the L-couch to clean it. Now that the floor is repaired we'll continue our vigilant effort to open all the cabinets when in storage and open it up to air it out every couple of weeks. Hopefully, no repeat of water in the floor. I have a moisture sensor tool that I'll be using regularly.
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Hi Rich - thanks for post on soft floor issues. I am living your issue from 2015 in 2016. We have 2 or 3 soft spots and they are in very different areas of the AS. One near front door in front of L couch and one near rear bedroom. I am heading over today to get full assessment of soft spot. We are also considering a JC trip, but not convinced we want to spend the $. Can I contact you directly to see what kinda price tag to expect?

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There is an aerosol product called "Spot Shot" in a blue and orange can (found at WallyMarts, etc). It's promoted as a carpet cleaner. I used it with my shop-vac a-la a steam-cleaning technique on dark mold spots in the mouse-fur of our Safari Sport. Spray the aerosol immediately in-front of the vacuum which immediately sucks it up and.... NO MOLD! (Took a couple efforts in a spot or two, but it's not come back and did a great job.)
Cost about $4/can.
I've also used this stuff on the car carpet and such and it's a good general purpose carpet cleaner too.
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Hi Rich - thanks for post on soft floor issues. I am living your issue from 2015 in 2016. We have 2 or 3 soft spots and they are in very different areas of the AS. One near front door in front of L couch and one near rear bedroom. I am heading over today to get full assessment of soft spot. We are also considering a JC trip, but not convinced we want to spend the $. Can I contact you directly to see what kinda price tag to expect?

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The current labor rate is $125 an hour. We had them recaulk the roof too, I believe we paid $1700 for everything but the roof was a full 8 hours for $1000. I had removed the L-couch, cabinetry, storage box and floor trim from the front of the trailer. I then rolled back the flooring to expose the soft spot. I let that dry for a couple of weeks then we went to JC. The more you can remove the better off you are. You're saving $125 an hour for all your labor.

You need an appointment. Go to their website and submit a request. They will get back to you with a date. Our appointment was 6 AM so you need to go the night before and you can stay for free at their full hookup site. You meet with your technician in the morning and go over what you need done. They will take a look and then get back to you with their recommendations and estimate.

Not much to do in Jackson Center but there are some threads on here about places to visit and stay. Indian Lake is close. We drove over to Columbus for a night's stay. Got to the hotel in time for the weekly motorcycle beer night (sigh ). Went to Sidney, just south of JC, stayed at Comfort Inn. Nice, quiet place, good breakfast. Don't make a reservation, just be a walk-in, tell them you're there on business for Airstream. There are several interesting buildings in Sidney, especially the renovated county courthouse, The Spot Restaurant and another courtroom, Federal, I think. You have to do The Spot http://www.thespottoeat.com/, get the pork tenderloin. mmmmmm.....
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