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Old 11-04-2006, 04:50 PM   #15
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Your not cutting the pan out, all you need to do is drill out about 75 rivets.

It will come down, if its in good shape you can reuse it.

If not a 4X8 sheet is about $50
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:05 PM   #16
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I don't think I'll reuse the old pan. I would rather use new material if it's feasible. Would you remove more of the floor than what is rotted? I am under the impression that most of my welding can be done from underneath.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:30 PM   #17
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Once the pan is down you can also inspect most of the plywood from the bottom.

Mine looked great except for two spots, one I didn't see from the top or inside.

I would only remove what is bad.
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Old 11-06-2006, 07:13 PM   #18
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Lipets,

Thanks for the info and picture on your frame repair. Did you have to do any outriggers. Also did you insulate below the floor and in between the belly pan or leave it open?

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Old 11-06-2006, 07:29 PM   #19
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Outriggers were ok, a few bolts were missing, don't know why?

No insulation in the belly, I am putting it inside on the floor, with Pergo on top.

If you want to put it in the belly or on the floor do NOT use the pink stuff, only use the foil bubble it will not absorb moisture and it has an R-14 rating.
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Old 11-07-2006, 06:58 AM   #20
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bubble insulation

We just came home with our AS two days ago. The very first thing my husband did was start taking down the belly since it had mice underneath in the insulation. I can really see the validity of Bob's bubble insulation over the standard; all the insulation was a soggy matted mess filled with mouse waste. UGH.

Luckily the floors appear to be ok in general and not rotted. However we do need to replace a couple of outriggers. Can someone give me the link to out-door-mart?

I would think that the bubble in addition to being drier would be less likely to get critters in since it wouldn't make good nesting. (?) I couldn't quickly find the link in the forum as to where to best buy the bubble insulation, but know that it can be bought at Farmtek.

I don't know how the prices compare but there is the link: http://www.farmtek.com/webapp/wcs/st...egoryIds=11210
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:52 AM   #21
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Wannaroam,
Where is Harmony PA?I believe you are just down the road.
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Old 11-07-2006, 11:40 AM   #22
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Insulation

I was recommended this product:

http://www.prodexsa.com/
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Old 11-07-2006, 12:56 PM   #23
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I bought mine from these guys,

good to deal with, but no phone help, but you really don't need any.
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:06 AM   #24
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tbrom
Harmony is right beside Zelienople.

On the outrigger replacement, would it better to use a stick welder or a small 100 amp Mig welder?

Also how would you bolt it if you aren't taking the flooring above out?
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Old 11-08-2006, 08:11 AM   #25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wannaroam
Also how would you bolt it if you aren't taking the flooring above out?
Don't follow that part of the question
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Old 11-08-2006, 08:48 AM   #26
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Are the outriggers bolted on the top side into the floor?
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:39 AM   #27
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Yes there are two bolts one at the outside edge thru the C channel and another about 6-8" inboard.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:59 AM   #28
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Ok, so if you aren't taking the plywood floor out above the outrigger you are replacing, is there a way to bolt it?
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