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Old 05-10-2008, 12:58 PM   #71
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I wrote to them for a quote for a one piece floor to go into my 1958 Flying Cloud. I think that would be very excellent....no seams. Marmoleum floring could then be applied over it, and hopefully look smooth as silk, and never crack or tear from floor movement.
Uwe,

I've always known you're a smart guy...

I noticed this myself and mentioned it HERE. IMHO, the benefits would easily outweigh the extra cost. Any trailer with a floor 24' or less could have a one piece floor.

You're right... that piece could be easily slid along side a typical semi load without taking up any usable space.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:21 PM   #72
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I wrote to them for a quote for a one piece floor to go into my 1958 Flying Cloud. I think that would be very excellent....no seams. Marmoleum floring could then be applied over it, and hopefully look smooth as silk, and never crack or tear from floor movement.
They can scoot it upright in the side of a semi heading our way, maybe. I can get it out with my lift truck and some chain.
If the corners get damaged, I wouldn' care, since I do not need the corners, and would cut all 4 sides anyways.
I like Marine Plywood a lot, and it is much cheaper, but I can't get a continous piece long enough to have a one piece floor...
uwe, if they can do that, i could order one too for my flying cloud which would defray the shipping costs for both of us. let me know what you find out.
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Old 05-10-2008, 03:03 PM   #73
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Uwe,

I've always known you're a smart guy...

I noticed this myself and mentioned it HERE. IMHO, the benefits would easily outweigh the extra cost. Any trailer with a floor 24' or less could have a one piece floor.

You're right... that piece could be easily slid along side a typical semi load without taking up any usable space.
Thanks.
I see on your blog that the samples indeed look like nylon fiber material. I am anxious to get a hold of a piece and see for myself what it is made f and how it machines.
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Old 05-10-2008, 03:05 PM   #74
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uwe, if they can do that, i could order one too for my flying cloud which would defray the shipping costs for both of us. let me know what you find out.
OK. Good idea.
Anyone else in SoCal want some? I can be the "hub" for it if necessary. I have a warehouse in Orange, right near Disneyland. The handling charge can be paid by means of cases of wine, I accept both Cabernet and/or Chardonnay.
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Old 05-10-2008, 06:03 PM   #75
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If I remember correctly the company has its main office in California. I know the manager is from California. He told me he transferred to Georgia when I visited the plant. He would not let out the trade secrets on how they made the Nyloboard from carpet fibers. I did see an example where you see the board not finished. It is real fuzzy carpet fibers for half the board and hard the other half. They must melt it into a board.



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Old 05-10-2008, 11:30 PM   #76
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If I remember correctly the company has its main office in California. I know the manager is from California. He told me he transferred to Georgia when I visited the plant. He would not let out the trade secrets on how they made the Nyloboard from carpet fibers. I did see an example where you see the board not finished. It is real fuzzy carpet fibers for half the board and hard the other half. They must melt it into a board.



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If they had a place in California, then I'd be willing to pick up from them, whereever they are. I'd just tow a frame there, strap the flooring to it, and head home to finish it....
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:53 PM   #77
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I'm researching everywhere for a water resistant, no gassing off, environmental safe and allergy proof! floor? How's that for criteria. Now add that I'm in Vancouver BC. I'm not having much luck.

My trailer is gutted to the metal beams, but the shell was not removed. I gather that will get interesting too.

1st things first. Must find that perfect floor (subfloor) or floor beneath the finished floor, or whatever it's called.

Nyloboard sounds like the thing, but I'd probably be paying a small fortune to get to my place. Any other highly recommended options available around BC?
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:59 AM   #78
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I'm researching everywhere for a water resistant, no gassing off, environmental safe and allergy proof! floor? How's that for criteria. Now add that I'm in Vancouver BC. I'm not having much luck.

My trailer is gutted to the metal beams, but the shell was not removed. I gather that will get interesting too.

1st things first. Must find that perfect floor (subfloor) or floor beneath the finished floor, or whatever it's called.

Nyloboard sounds like the thing, but I'd probably be paying a small fortune to get to my place. Any other highly recommended options available around BC?
Subfloor is the correct term. I would contact Windsor Plywood. They usually have a good handle on what is available. A marine grade plywood is likely what you want, but I'm not sure if it is made with low toxicity/VOC.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:59 PM   #79
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I'm researching everywhere for a water resistant, no gassing off, environmental safe and allergy proof! floor? How's that for criteria. Now add that I'm in Vancouver BC. I'm not having much luck.

My trailer is gutted to the metal beams, but the shell was not removed. I gather that will get interesting too.

1st things first. Must find that perfect floor (subfloor) or floor beneath the finished floor, or whatever it's called.

Nyloboard sounds like the thing, but I'd probably be paying a small fortune to get to my place. Any other highly recommended options available around BC?
Two Candian based companys that you might check with are:

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I redid my subfloor using Polyboard from the first company. I was able to find a supplier local to Portland, Oregon that had it in stock. I don't know what is available in your local area or how far the factory might be but it could be worth checking. At the time that I redid my floor I paid $65 per sheet (US). I understand that the prices have gone up since then to around $85 per sheet. The material is more flexible and heavier than plywood but is definitely totally waterproof. It is not necessarily the right choice for everyone but I like it. It is cheaper than NyloBoard too although from what I have been reading here the NyloBoard seems like a great product if it is indeed as stiff as plywood. For more information about what I did with Polyboard check out the following thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...ight=Polyboard

I would be happy to answer any questions about the process. Also if you weld or have acess to inexpensive welding you could easily replace the aluminum stiffeners that I uses with strips of steel of some sort.

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Old 05-15-2008, 12:17 AM   #80
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Perfect.
Thanks to both of you. I'm checking each idea. New City does have an office in Vancouver. And, I do have a welder buddy.

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Nyloboard Delivered & Air Compressor

Nyloboard 4' x 8' x 3/4" arrived by Dayton Freight today. It's on a pallet, lying flat on my driveway. The shipping weight is marked 161#. How much of that is pallet? It has the fiberglass layer on both sides, making moot the choice of Prime vs Choice. Pallet and all will be useful, because I need to build a little shed for our pool pump this summer, now I have plenty of very costly framing material.

We have a 30% chance of rain today, but I'm not worried -- it's Nyloboard! I'll post some pictures and maybe a link to a little video on my photo site when I get back home later.

And, I picked up a 17 gal. upright air compressor at Sears. I know it will be great for the riveting, but not sure about the metal shears. Good thing about Sears, they will exchange it if it doesn't hold out well for the shearing. I guess any place would do the same, but this price was the best I could find for the comparable equipment locally for ease of exchanging, if necessary.

P.S. Maui was wonderful. I'm starting to cross the hobby/obsession line. All the way out from Phoenix to Maui I doodled floor plans. On the red-eye back to Phoenix, I merely thought about doodling floor plans, so I guess it's not full-blown obsession yet. That's another thread.


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Good luck with the nyloboard. So far it is working well for me. the jury will be out until I get this rig up and running. I think it is going work well. I tiled my bathroom floor so you can't even tell where the old ends and new begins.

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Old 05-21-2008, 11:26 AM   #83
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Nyloboard 4' x 8' x 3/4" arrived by Dayton Freight today. It's on a pallet, lying flat on my driveway. The shipping weight is marked 161#. How much of that is pallet? It has the fiberglass layer on both sides, making moot the choice of Prime vs Choice. Pallet and all will be useful, because I need to build a little shed for our pool pump this summer, now I have plenty of very costly framing material.

We have a 30% chance of rain today, but I'm not worried -- it's Nyloboard! I'll post some pictures and maybe a link to a little video on my photo site when I get back home later.

And, I picked up a 17 gal. upright air compressor at Sears. I know it will be great for the riveting, but not sure about the metal shears. Good thing about Sears, they will exchange it if it doesn't hold out well for the shearing. I guess any place would do the same, but this price was the best I could find for the comparable equipment locally for ease of exchanging, if necessary.

P.S. Maui was wonderful. I'm starting to cross the hobby/obsession line. All the way out from Phoenix to Maui I doodled floor plans. On the red-eye back to Phoenix, I merely thought about doodling floor plans, so I guess it's not full-blown obsession yet. That's another thread.


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Anne,

I live in Portland, Oregon but I telecommute to a company in Tempe, AZ. On one of the last trips that I made to Phoenix I spent both directions sketching up all sorts of details for how I am intending to put my Airstream back together.

I don't think you will have any problems with shears with your compressor but I would like to hear how it goes. I still want to buy a pair of shears and I have been debating whether to buy electric ones or air powered. Have you bought your shears yet? Where did you get yours? I think that pretty much any tool that does not use a continuous large volume flow of air will work just fine.

If you have not yet bought a rivet gun I can recommend one like what I bought at Harbor Freight.

Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices

Do you have a local Harbor Freight store? If you do you might want to check the online price for anything you buy and call the store before you go to see if the item is in stock. If the store price happens to be higher you can take in the online print out and they will typically honor the online price.

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Old 05-21-2008, 12:25 PM   #84
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I am anxiously awaiting my samples.
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