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Old 08-06-2011, 09:30 PM   #15
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I agree ,Althou I worked dismantling for 15 years & demo can be fun as long as I don't have to put it back together.

This is new as far as a Air Stream but with mu automotive & construction experience it will be a little slow @ 1st but I am down to nothing but water heater & then the floor .

HA HA HA I peeled the bottom skin back today & found the nest of bull ants & squirted them with poison What a mess I looks as if squirrels or rats had a freaking blast in between the floor & the lower skin.

QUESTION

I noticed today there is a ,or what seems to be a electric heating element in the back of the water heater.

Looks like it was never hooked up .So the big Q is can this be employed ? Also can someone link me to a parts site I am sure there has to be a lot of specialty items now for these campers

I would like to find some dual function 12 V /120 V exterior lights maybe even with a motion sensor?

I would like to put a generator in the passenger side exterior compartment {the only compartment} Enuf to power a Roof mounted A/C & everything else.

More Pixs to come tomorrow.

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Old 09-09-2011, 04:04 PM   #16
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OMG!
I can't believe its been over a month since I last posted.

Well SNAFU {Situation Normal All Forked Up}

Any how I ripped the rest of the floor out today along with some drain pipe & then I took the water hose & some cleaner to the inside now I feel better about going inside without needing a Tyvek hazardous waste jump suit.

The frame is not as bad as I would have thought next is to get some metal & replace what needs to be replaced.

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Old 09-09-2011, 06:22 PM   #17
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Hello,

Welcome to the world of Airstream.

One thing I have learned regarding Airstream is:
Do not try to think why they built them that way.

All it will do is give you a headache.

Why the plumbing and electrical looks the way it does or why is the frame too thin. The older units are certainly not easy to work on.

Some of this Airstream engineering does lead one to wonder who designed these units.

But, Airstream is one of the few vintage brands that is worth restoring to an usable condition.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:20 PM   #18
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Hello,

Welcome to the world of Airstream.

One thing I have learned regarding Airstream is:
Do not try to think why they built them that way.

All it will do is give you a headache.

Why the plumbing and electrical looks the way it does or why is the frame too thin. The older units are certainly not easy to work on.

Some of this Airstream engineering does lead one to wonder who designed these units.

But, Airstream is one of the few vintage brands that is worth restoring to an usable condition.

Why was an Airstream built that way?

Unfortunately, we all to many times look at a 30, 40 or 50 year old Airstream, and ask that question.

Current and basice technology was used. But, we usually fail to reason, that the method was ancient, along with the time.

Certainly, cars and trucks, today, are a far cry from yesteryear, and so is Airstream.

Homes built today, far exceed those build many years ago. Most of us, appreciate that. That's why we remodel.

Then, unless we were the original owner, modifications were made by the owners of those trailers, and all too many times, substandard.

But, the idea is the same, from years ago, until now. Owning an Airstream, is somewhat a higher step in society, so, many climb those steps, but expect quality and performance of a "today's" product, which folks, as they say in Brooklyn, "ain't gonna happen".

So the bottom line is, buy what you can afford, have the abilities to overhaul and/or rebuild, go camping or traveling with your Airstream, with friends and family, and enjoy life, to the fullest, at least until the rest of our highways, fall apart.

Mahalo.

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Old 09-10-2011, 07:03 AM   #19
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LOL! Too funny!

I left Brooklyn & moved into this very Air Stream in the mid 90's

Also being a Auto body Auto repair & a junk Yard dawg all my life fixing a turd into a gem is a way of life .
My newest vehicle is a 1988 No computer's IMHO vehicles hit their pinnacle in the late 80's as far as simplicity & reliability.

I cant help but think what was up with the bath tub was that for Zsa Zsa Gabor to was her toy poodle in? Any Way its out & a real mans man show will be put in place.

More to come!

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Old 09-10-2011, 07:21 AM   #20
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At least now is your big chance to put a grey tank of some kind in there.
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Old 09-10-2011, 09:24 PM   #21
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Excuse my ignorance but is it necessary now a days to have a Grey tank?


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Old 09-10-2011, 11:49 PM   #22
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Ifyou want to be able to camp "self-contained" it sure is. More than ever in fact: you can't just let the grey water trickle out onto the ground, since it's illegal to do that anywhere I can think of.

If you never camp anywhere but RV parks, then yes, you can do without it.
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Old 09-11-2011, 12:26 AM   #23
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Rear end issues

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You can extend the trunk but do not add more weight on it. The longer trailers suffer from the too much weight in the rear design flaw.
Not every "long" Airstream has the frame problem.

We see many of them, and can easily say, the lack of proper PM, is the basic cause of the rear end problems. Not all, but most.

Lack of proper running gear balance, is a killer for the longer trailers.

Bad axle rubber rods, play havoc with the rear ends as well, because of added road shock transfered to the chassis.

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Old 09-11-2011, 07:42 AM   #24
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OK Let talk Grey water tanks.

Got any threads you would like to share?

Are there Pre made tanks to go in the hole I already have?

I am going to have to add this to my sub conscious list of things to do



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Old 09-11-2011, 08:12 AM   #25
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OK Let talk Grey water tanks.

Got any threads you would like to share?

Are there Pre made tanks to go in the hole I already have?

I am going to have to add this to my sub conscious list of things to do



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Okay.
The first year Sovereigns had grey tanks was 1973, usually as 1974 models. They were a whopping 10 gallon capacity, but had the advantage of easily going in the space under the floor, beneath the bathtub. You can get one to go in there, and get one up to about 25 gallon capacity, though it's not a good idea to tow any real distance with the tank full.
A better alternative these days is to get a "generic" grey tank, and mount it, say between the axles. It's a simple plumbing matter, running an ABS pipe the same diameter of what you already have up to the top of the new tank, putting in a vent, and installing a drain pipe and dump valve. If you went that route, you could simply put a Tee in the drain pipe that goes from the kitchen sink straight down to the top of the new grey tank.
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I added a grey tank to my 65 sovereign. Put it right behind the rear axles.
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:44 AM   #27
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Making Progress

Howdy Folks!

I know its been sometime since I took the time to post here but its been on my mind to do so.

I have been making progress & modifications.

The Frame replacement is done minus the rear bumper Waiting to engineer & install the new custom Poop / Grey water tank.
& the floor is IN!!!

So happy about that one there
1st time in probally 20 years its buttoned up.

Yea I been slacking on it but .
I have good excuses. well at least their fun!
A whole Lotta Fun.
So Happily Divorced As of Sept. 28th 2011.
Dropped about 35 Lbs.
Bought A Harley
& got a few cuties i'm seeing .
One I really fond of.

Working in the dirt has made it hard & the cold of the winter time shut me down as far as wanting to get on my Air Dream

I also Gutted the living room area .

All the factory stuff I carefully removed & I want it sell it to someone who can use it I really hate to send it to the land fill Bathroom & living room minus anything that was trashed.

I even started cleaning her up . I literaly had to take a water hose to the interior when the cleaner hit the GACK it turned orange probally Nicotine, YUK!!

I really have to orginize my photos & find the ones for the actual repairs & post them

Now comes the trick part making the custom shower & moutning the toilet. then monting the bumper & cuting the frame back then making the trunk area

So far the POLY is great its a little heavier than wood but it will NEVER rot.

Ok Going to do some more on it today.

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Glad to see you finally moving on. It has been while since your last post.

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