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Old 05-17-2014, 09:46 PM   #99
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Ok the interior is pretty much gutted. Pictures to follow tomorrow. More work than I anticipated at the end once the big stuff was out. Removed window interior frames to facilitate removing the inner skin. Quickly learned that the lowest skins are on the inside and outermost on the top.

Quick question, the trim around the door frame. It appears to just be fitted and could be knocked off with a dead blow hammer and a 2x4. Is this how it comes off?

Feeling a little confused about how best to attack removing the inner skins. Need some advice. Start at the very top section? There is a rail that holds the middle top section in, I can't seem to slide it out, but bending it out of the track would seem to invite damage. Do I have to fully dewire the fans? What about the AC?

My goal in removing all the skins is to replace wiring, add some new lighting, replace insulation, and locate leaks. From this first look / attempt at removing them it looks like a real bear of a job.

What is the best route to get those skins and and what should I be doing NOW to ensure they go back in when it's time with as little pain as possible?

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Only have one section of skin out, since drilled out many more rivets but have not removed any more. Want to wait until I understand the proper sequence.
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Old 05-17-2014, 10:14 PM   #100
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Millertime's rear bathroom rot '76 Tradewind thread

The center section is fitted into a grove on either side, unless there is some trick I don't know about you will have to bow it down to get it out. We did this with no damage, just make sure to bend the sheet in only one plane as much as possible,,, I.e. No kinks.

You can remove each side to the center section starting at the top.

To get the center sheet out you will need to unwire and drop the inside part of the air conditioner.

I don't know, maybe you don't need to pull the center section of aluminum?

The top center section can come out last.
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The door frame trim may have a couple or a few screws that hold it in the door jambs. If so, you will be able to see them with the door open.

There are a lot of clips that god the lip of the frame in a groove, some careful prying with a pry tool will get the frame out, but the clips will hold it in tight.
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Don't let the skins trip you out, once you get rolling they will come out quick and easy.
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Don't be intimidated, the skins are pretty durable, the end caps you will need to exercise care, the front one will be brittle.

If you get on a big roll and get a lot done tomorrow, label all of the 12 volt wires as to their location. You are going to find a lot of 12 v wires you will need to keep track of them. These wires on my trailer were in great shape and would have gone back in if I had gone the stock rebuild direction.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:26 AM   #104
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Thanks for the advice spent the morning organizing and cleaning parts, NOT my favorite kind of work but it had to be done.

Found 2 aluminum 10 gal tanks off a 1970s airstream on craigslist for 125. The owner put in the new opd valves but never got them certified. Good deal or pass?
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We took photos of anything that connected to wires before we disconnected. A few of our replaced items had different color wires.
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Same here! I am labeling mine with blue elec tape and sharpie marker with its component and its connecting wire when they are different, which is more often than not so far.


Mainly cleanup and organizing today but I did remove the upper vents and ac inner cover and got the upper skin out. I did bend it up a little in a 12 in section on the edge. If I had kept the opposite side in the track it wouldn't have gotten jammed but I think I can hammer it back flat before reinstall later.

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Yes I left the ac controls intact so
I can still run that sucker when I am in there! Gets hot in FL
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You are doing great are you replacing the fiber glass with reflext stuff from lowes or prodex? Has she told you where she wants more outlets? I like what you have done so far I had and still have several coffee cans with every nut bolt screw clip and snap out of the caravel! If you picked the temp parking spot for the shell? Leave nothing for the last minute be prepared so you don't look like me! New favorite phrase "oh sh**"! (Must have something to do with grandchildren never had that problem with troops).
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The very latest episode of The VAP talks a bit about how to fabricate a new frame using the old one as a jig.

Episode 209 Fun with panels

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The very latest episode of The VAP talks a bit about how to fabricate a new frame using the old one as a jig.



Episode 209 Fun with panels



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Thanks! Will listen to them tonight
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You are doing great are you replacing the fiber glass with reflext stuff from lowes or prodex? Has she told you where she wants more outlets? I like what you have done so far I had and still have several coffee cans with every nut bolt screw clip and snap out of the caravel! If you picked the temp parking spot for the shell? Leave nothing for the last minute be prepared so you don't look like me! New favorite phrase "oh sh**"! (Must have something to do with grandchildren never had that problem with troops).
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Cliff I was leaning towards reflext. What would you suggest regarding how to install it?

I saved every darn screw clamp etc, not always with its part though hopefully that will be alright lol.

I have the Stream beside the house now. Would be BEST if I could put the shell further back in the yard but I can't get the trailer around our pool. Is it realistic to lift the shell and perhaps then relocate it back around 40 feet so that I can use the current space to work on the new/repaired frame with the gantries? Option B puts the gantries and frame in my driveway until I am ready to reattach the shell. Having the gantries up in driveway (thus not behind my privacy fence) for a few months might have the neighborhood out to get me!

The insulation around the 110 wires is black and when I bend it against itself it is cracking slightly. I am leaning towards replacement. Is standing 12 gauge 3-wire appropriate for this application? I am sure I gets hot between the skins no issues with standard wire?

With the interior skins, after scrubbing well anything else I should do before reinstall? I was planning on painting the skins and was going to just prime everything after they were back in. Perhaps I could go ahead and scuff them up with some 220. Would be easier then and easier to clean off all the dust with a hose.
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If the 120 wire is showing signs of wear I would replace it.

12 ga should be good to 20 amps, like for your a/c, and 14 ga is good for 15 amps. I ended up with a couple of 20 amp circuits and 4 15 amp circuits.

A crane service could move that shell anywhere you want, but it will cost some money.

A couple of years ago I watched a fiberglass pool shell being lifted over a house from the street to a hole in the back yard.
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Dude I watch the history channel you get 30 or so troopies out there with party as an outcome and they could put a C-130 in your back yard! I for one would not move it unless it were on a cradle meant to move. The wire is a good idea and your family is using it so safe is good! Awesome job by the way!
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