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Old 09-01-2014, 12:56 PM   #253
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I would think the only part of the gas lines you could run flipped would be the main trunk, assuming it was removed intact and didnt get damaged. All the copper off that should be run once the trailer is back together and the appliances are in place. Fresh water lines same way. Just have the tank in place. You may want to run leads off the tank level sensor since once its boxed in, you really cant access them otherwise. The wiring for the brakes is coming down from shell, so probably only thing you can do is make sure there is a hole going down for each axle on each side with a grommet or maybe you can fashion some sort of tube from the wood through to the belly pan to route it.

The subfloor isnt glued down, at least it isnt from the factory. Not sure I would do it, the self drilling bolts seem to hold it down pretty well and it could cause problems for a future owner.

You may be able to do some of the bathroom drain plumbing while its flipped. Depends on whether you are putting everything back the same or making mods and have got that all figured out. I wouldnt go ape over trying to do every last thing you can while its flipped. You are going to have to spend some time on your back getting it hooked back together since somethings have to be done with connections from the shell. HTH
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:19 AM   #254
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Ok got some work done in the last few evenings prepping for the coming week. Wet sanded with 600 grit and then topcoated the POR15 with POR15 sterling silver. Recommend using a foam brush and 2 coats to minimize brushmarks. This stuff just doesn't self level like the POR15 black undercoating so don't be it surprised if it doesn't look super smooth.

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Here is a look at the new underpan for the fresh water my welder made up.

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Since I had some leftover black POR15 and the stuff supposedly doesn't last long I painted all the worn and rough looking WD gear and my truck hitch, I even painted my trucks rusty exhaust. I also coated the c channels in a few sections where there was some corrosion from the original steel bolts. Picture doesn't show it well but it looks pretty sharp!

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Still need to get the flange for the rear end fabricated. This piece will cover the end grain of the floor unlike the factory design which allowed water to penetrate the rear near the trunk.

I figure it will go up the back around 4 inches, bend 90, then go down the trunk area around 3 inches. I am using 5052 that I have 2 rolls of my the belly skin.

Can I make it the full length of the rear crossmember? The body curves at the edges and I am not sure if the 5052 in .032 could bend in that compound curve for a few inches or if I should just flash the straight section leaving the ends exposed.





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Old 09-03-2014, 01:17 PM   #255
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My two cents, being obsessive about sealing off the rear completely, is to leave nothing exposed. If the curve of the flashing cannot be shrunk into the angles as the arc of the floor comes into the frame rail corners, I would go the snip and tuck and seal route to close the flashing to the trunk wall underneath. Then the flat, horizontal part of the frame rail, as it goes under the subfloor, will obviously need its own flashing. I hope that makes sense.

I closed in my trunk a little differently - http://www.airforums.com/forums/f4/s...-a-119687.html - but I really like your beefed-up frame work in that area. Enjoying following your progress.

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Old 09-05-2014, 12:23 PM   #256
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Millertime's rear bathroom rot '76 Tradewind thread

Alan nice work on securing the rear of your trailer. While mine is a little different since I had my welder fully box in my rear bumper trunk I think I can get it pretty well sealed.

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It's great having a full sheet metal shop at your work. They even let me bend it myself. Learned a lot, who knew metal had grain and that you should design your breaks across or diagonal to the grain? Luckily mine didn't split during the bend with the grain being with the split. Also had my first chance using the HF metal shears. They worked awesome, just tough to cut a perfectly straight line freehand.




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Old 09-06-2014, 07:07 PM   #257
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Surge week has begun, only a half day since my family didn't get into town until a little after noon.

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Dry fitting the new floor into place, the tounge and groove required some adjustments since once closed they are not truly 48 in wide.

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Me with my helper, we countersunk the elevator bolts from VTS across each crossmember then attached them with a washer and nut from underneath.

The smaller 2 center frame members that run lengthwise require self tapping screws. I got 25 from VTS but need to pickup some more from HD. Sunday is a rest day for us then back at it Monday. First thing is to finish securing the floor, then we will get the frame flipped on its side and start on underbody insulation, tanks, and plumbing.




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Old 09-06-2014, 08:16 PM   #258
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That is the house next door right? I just tossed a working weed wacker wished I had known you needed one cuz I am always willing to help a swabby in need! Lol mine looked worse but now it's cleaned up since I just finished the lawn mower repair! Oh yes good job on the floor! Not really knocking you on your yard work just felt the need to poke a sailor no insult intended! Wishing you good weather for the frame work! Thanks for the pictures.
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:10 PM   #259
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Cliff that is my O5 colonel USMC neighbor's house Semper Fi!


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Old 09-06-2014, 09:20 PM   #260
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Figures! My condolences maybe you will have better luck with your next housing unit! Still awesome job on the floor!
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:18 PM   #261
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Judging by the meter on your neighbors house I am saying you don't live on base housing, so I will refrain from ranting about how I remember when a yard neglected that way would not have been tolerated at all,,, ESPECIALLY from a senior officer.

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Old 09-07-2014, 02:41 AM   #262
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No rv's allowed to be parked at the house on base housing on any base so no he is not on base besides that a LtCol cut his own grass on base!? Not likely.
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Old 09-07-2014, 09:40 AM   #263
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Yea you are dead right about the lawn service for senior officers quarters.

It seems to me that 25 years ago the only folks that didn't cut their own grass on the base I am familiar with were 07 and above...

Times change!
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Old 09-08-2014, 06:39 PM   #264
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Day 2 of the surge, finished attaching the floor

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Next was attaching the wheel well c channels, the fit was tight on mine so bar of soap rubbed on the edges prior to knocking it in helped a ton

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Time to flip her over! We used 2 chain hoists on the back at each side of the rear axle and slowly rotated it over.

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On her side and ready for work. Used a pallet to keep the frame edges off the ground and kept some load on the chains for safety. It was much easier to work on the insulation standing upright!

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We used Dow blue board 3/4 " and doubled it for 1.5 " of insulation under the floor. Then we attached it with large fender washers and deck screws to the underside of the floor. Tip: use your scraps as the first layer and solid boards for the top layer. Not only looks better but it helps seal in the air gaps in the first layer.

Tomorrow we finish the insulation and move on to tanks, plumbing, brake wiring, and belly skin.

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