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Old 08-17-2014, 03:33 PM   #211
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I regularly enjoy both threads, I like it when folks get stuff done and not letting a project linger into infinity!
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:00 AM   #212
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I just read the whole thread, Matt, just amazing. Keep up thre great progress!! MPJ
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Old 08-18-2014, 07:56 PM   #213
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Thanks J Morgan and MPJ for the support, needing it tonight! After working on all this dirty ugly stuff can sort of feel like it will never end!

Tonight I pulled out the wheel well C Channels from my pile O' stuff in the backyard. I have been avoiding this little project for sometime,.... Cleaning them up. While most the other c channels had a little bit of grime and a smudge of sealant, these two demons from sealant hell were smeared all over, especially the inside track where the wells sit. I started my attack with metal putty knife and a narrow chisel for the inside parts. This Sealant is white, hard but just pliable enough to scrape off partially. After I got a lot of the big stuff I sprayed the whole thing down with Desolv It, an orange based contactor grade remover. It's easy on the hands and smells nice. It dissolved the remaining sealant somewhat, but really just turned it into this slimy gray paste that just won't come off without a ton of wiping, etc.

Anyways I spent an hour on those two c channels and they still have enough residue in places that I am unsure if they are clean enough to have fresh sealant stick. Not to mention I still need to paint the outer areas black again.

Frustrated with hands covered in gray goo I out put them against the fence and sprayed them down with more Desolv it. Hopefully the Florida sun and rain will help me out some and degrease those suckers. Dawn didn't help much and the goo just STICKS in the bristles of my scrub brushes.

In short, cleaning old sealant really sucks.

I am going to let those demons sit and attack the remaining electrical outlets and insulation work for a while..... Whew!


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Old 08-18-2014, 10:48 PM   #214
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If the chems fail, you might think about trying the careful application of a little heat.

Maybe a heat gun or even a propane torch providing you can stay upwind of the fumes.

Too bad you aren't here, we could just bend up some new ones with my metal brake...
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Old 08-19-2014, 05:52 AM   #215
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Try Kleen Kutter Gel Formula. You want the extra toxic stuff not the orange flavored stuff. If it says "do not get on skin" then you have the right stuff.

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Old 08-19-2014, 10:18 PM   #216
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Matt. Keep it up. You keep me motivated. I took mine to a welder today after getting all the plywood off. Frame wasn't too bad. Just know I check forum every day to see what you've done and how I can learn from you.


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Old 08-20-2014, 10:42 PM   #217
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We're right behind you!

Hi Matt-I'm going to refer my husband (digidad) to your thread as we are right behind you. Fortunately we pretty much knew going in that our trailer reno would be a full monty--and paid accordingly.

I have three welders lined up to come over on Friday to look at our frame. We're almost ready to pull the body off. I was looking for pricing to get a ballpark number...looks like you said $2400 for material, NOT labor? May I ask your estimate for the whole thing? And, looks like you are building an entirely new frame not repairing, correct?

Here's our reno thread that my husband has been keeping:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f169...er-123238.html

We're doing almost everything ourselves but can't handle the welding/frame. He's a technology guy and looking forward to re-wiring and plumbing. We're also changing the floorplan to a rear bedroom/side bath with a big kitchen and (hopefully) bar!

Thanks for all the details on your project, I look forward to going back and reading your entire thread!

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Old 08-21-2014, 09:02 AM   #218
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J Morgan and perry thanks for the suggestions. They look a little better in the daylight, but still need some work will put your ideas to work.

Swahealy, hope Paulie is progressing well you are doing a great job on her!

Laurel I am glad I hear you and your husband did your homework and did not get the surprise that I did! Regarding the new frame my cost was $2400 (just spoke with welder a few days ago) for everything including labor. I did supply the POR15 and metal ready but they are going to spray it prior to installing my new axles and shocks (which I also provided). I also ordered a bulldog jack to replace the tired power jack on the front, which they will also put in.

Pensacola has a lot of skilled labor in these trades so I was able to find a good price. Albeit most shops sent me packing, too much trouble for not enough money I guess. Found my guy through recommendation from a shop owner who said this is the guy he would use. He has a buddy, the owner of another shop, who is letting him use his main shop and they are tag teaming my frame. We have a local steel mill also so that might cut costs some. The 2400 also includes a brand new refabricated pan for my fresh water tank, which was rusted to ribbons.

Thanks again to everyone for all the support and encouragement. I just got in a big order from VTS. Buck riveting kit, 2 fantastic fans, and a new 55 in gray water tank from them should be in today. Oh I forgot to mention I ordered and received 2 4x12 sheets of 5052-H32 aluminum from aircraft spruce for the new belly pan. Getting all my ducks in a row for the weeklong marathon session next month.







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Old 08-21-2014, 08:50 PM   #219
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Just in from VTS, grey 55 in tank which will fit the 70s frames really well. Capacity is 21 gallons. I am using my old gray tank as well so total gray capacity should be around 35 gallons. They did a nice job on the spun weld fittings and their communication with me to check that the placement was correct was excellent. Highly recommend VTS for tanks.


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Old 08-25-2014, 07:40 PM   #220
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Talked to my frame guy, things taking longer than I had hoped. He said maybe complete this Saturday, it depends on how fast he gets it painted. In either case I am headed down to pensacola on Saturday to check it out.

Took my daily bite of the elephant today putting new weather seal on the h2o inlet. When it rained I could see the water leaking inside, which means it would end up in my water tank.
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Then I remove the tank vents from the roof to facilitate new gaskets. Well one will get new gaskets, the other one I will rivet in a blank cover and then reinstall the cover, no one will be the wiser and my new layout does not need 2 vents.

At the advice of the forum I pulled my air conditioner cover to clean it up. It was surprisingly clean. My removing the cover, with it's old brittle plastic, led to it cracking. I hate making work for myself. I did find a nice crack on the top which I was able to seal up though with some fiberglass and resin. Looked like something heavy fell on it, pinecone? It's in better shape now and I also reglued the foam air seals in place that had long since come unglued.

Munch munch munch..... How many more bites will this elephant take to finish?

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Frame is ready! Picking it up this Saturday. Need advice from the group:

What should I be looking for regarding inspection of the new frame? Should I attempt to take measurements and compare it
to the old frame? I have zero welding experience so I don't know what to look for.

I would just hate to pay off the balance, get this frame home, only to find there is a problem.


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Old 08-29-2014, 06:24 AM   #222
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I did not know there was a gasket. How does air get through there to burp the tank? The air vent for the tanks is in that same compartment. I am not real nuts about that little flap door and it does lend itself to contaminating the water.

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Old 08-29-2014, 06:32 AM   #223
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That is a tough one.

I can only tell you what I think I would do.

I would look it over in comparison to the old frame to make sure that everything is where it should be visually. I would do a few quick measurements of a few key dimensions, and if it looks right, and it looks like they did a good job I would pay for it and tow it home.

If you start measuring and find things in the wrong place, (axle placement, overall length or width, etc) then I would do more measurements.

I think if everything looked cool I wouldn't spend more than about five minutes measuring, and another five minutes doing a visual inspection.

For me there is a fine balance in this kind of thing, it is important to have a product that will work right for its intended purpose, and it is important to me that I also don't seem like a weasel when I am delivered a great product for a great price.

If this is a production shop, I say the odds are that the metal work is going to look great, and the frame will be dimensionally correct.
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I agree with the measuring.... I would say measure, measure, measure- particularly the outriggers. When I duplicated my old rotten floor onto the newly refurbished frame, I quickly realized how important it is to have everything line up the way it was built.

These trailers are built "one-off" for the most part, in that the sheet metal is cut to fit as the coach is assembled. The wheel well openings, door, door step, access openings for battery, storage and water heater, etc. are already cut.

Perhaps the floor cuts are a little more important than the outrigger placement, but some of the outriggers need to be fairly accurately duplicated, such as the wheel wells and the door step. If the wheel wells are off, it wont line up with your wheel well in the skins.

In the end this will never be an exact match- its simply the nature of the beast, so you'll surely be making adjustments along the way.

You sure are moving though, so I dont expect any adjustments to slow you down. Nice work!
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