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01-07-2013, 06:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Marmoleum Installation
I have tried numerous floor treatments, many with questionable results...having seen some nice flooring jobs with marmoleum I'm going to give it a try. For those that have marmoleum in your trailers, did you install it yourself or have it installed. I want to go with sheet marmoleum in our "74" Tradewind but understand it only comes in 6' widths. In addition, to butt it together ("weld" together) requires special talent and tools. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!
Bob
Indiana, PA
TAC PA-5
WBCCI 4871
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01-07-2013, 07:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 31' Sovereign
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
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We only put it in the bathroom. It has held up really well and is, of course, impervious to water. Used contact cement to lay it down and it hasn't budged.
We got our little piece from a friend's leftovers and it was originally 79" wide. They did have a seam in their application but you really had to look for it. They installed it themselves in their mud room.
Great looking stuff.
Mike
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01-07-2013, 07:23 PM
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Klatawa (to travel)
1965 24' Tradewind
Currently Looking...
Bremerton
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2007
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We have installed Marmoleum in 3 trailers, but all while the trailer was empty of walls and cabinets. You need a near perfect subfloor to begin with. Any imperfection in the floor will show.We put the seam along the wall that would then be covered(streetside) with closets/cabinets. There are two grades, commercial and regular, surprisingly the commercial is thinner, and tears easier.
Good luck, I love the look that you get.
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Klatawa
(Dave & Debbie)
1965 24' Tradewind
2015 Chev Silverado HC
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01-07-2013, 07:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
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Forbes, the manufacturer, is very clear you have to use their adhesive. There is also a tile marmoleum with a different adhesive. Ditto on a perfectly level subfloor. Forbes told me to screw down 1/4" piece of baltic birch to the plywood subfloor with a countersunk screw every 4" in a grid. I thought I did a good job, but a few of the screws still show. I'm still glad I picked marmoleum.
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01-07-2013, 08:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
, Vermont
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Bob,
I second everything that Lumatic and Dave and Debbie have told you.
I used Marmoleum on the floor and on the bath and kitchen counters too.
Still looks great and cleans like a breeze. Very happy with it.
Here's a couple of shots of my original install. Wall to wall like Dave and Debbie.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f227...tml#post242846
Sergei
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01-07-2013, 08:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
, Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,432
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A few more Marmoleum shots for you:
Sergei
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01-07-2013, 09:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 22' Safari
Buda
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 612
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokelessJoe
Bob,
I second everything that Lumatic and Dave and Debbie have told you.
I used Marmoleum on the floor and on the bath and kitchen counters too.
Still looks great and cleans like a breeze. Very happy with it.
Here's a couple of shots of my original install. Wall to wall like Dave and Debbie.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f227...tml#post242846
Sergei
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I read the link you posted, it said you put in a seamless piece of flooring, does marmoleum come in 8ft widths?
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DFlores
David & Diana
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01-07-2013, 09:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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No. Like Dave and Debbie above I butted the two pieces, about 12" or less out from the street side wall. Since cabinetry covers that entire wall the effect is seamless.
Sergei
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01-07-2013, 09:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Laramie
, Wyoming
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Had it done to Bambi II. Inside is only 6' wide so no seam. Installer put down 1/4" smooth base first. He'd done 1/2 dozen Airstreams before ours. First class. Located north of Denver.
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2021 Caravel 20 FB
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01-08-2013, 04:32 AM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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I love Marmoleum
Bob,
I have installed sheet Marmoleum a few times. If you can find a Pro that has all the proper tools and equipment, and is available, have a pro do it. It comes on a roll that is 2m wide, so you will have a seam. Armstrong has a line of commercial linoleum that is 12' wide, but their color choices are very limited.
Sub-floor prep is the most crucial part of the install. I first used a penetrating epoxy (ESP 155) then I used WestSystem epoxy with microlight fairing filler to "fair" the surface. I explained what/how I did it starting on post #386 of this thread. Good luck!
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Work is never done, so take time to play!
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01-08-2013, 06:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
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I chose Marmoleum because it has a vintage look. And now for a wee bit of useless information: Marmoleum is a true linoleum. What you may ask makes linoleum different than vinyl. The "lin" in linoleum comes from linseed. Linoleum is made from linseeds. I didn't know this until last year.
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01-08-2013, 05:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 677
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Thanks for all the suggestions, advice, and tips regarding marmoleum installation. It would appear that subfloor prep is critical to a long lasting floor. Didn't think about the seam being under cabinets but since I will be removing the galley, bunks, and dinette that should be hidden upon re-installation. How easy is it to cut the marmoleum. I got to handle a piece of sheet marmoleum yesterday and it seems rather heavy.
Bob
Indiana, PA
TAC PA-5
WBCCI 4871
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01-08-2013, 06:34 PM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Marmoleum is not too difficult to cut as long as you have sharp cutting tools. I have the best results by scoring the sheet with a razor knife first, then using a hook blade in a utility knife like this to make the final cut. There are a bunch of good how to videos on youtube from Forbo. The best ones are in German, but you'll understand as they go along.
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04-06-2014, 07:04 AM
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Peapod
1985 31' Excella
Dade City
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 126
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Is it possible to do a good job of installing marmoleum WITHOUT removing cabinets/appliances/beds? We want to replace our carpet - changed carpet in previous AS without taking everything out and it looked great, but we would like to go to a solid floor this time.
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04-06-2014, 07:31 AM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
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Yes! It is possible to install the Marmo without taking everything out.
How to instructions start here.
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Lance
Work is never done, so take time to play!
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04-17-2014, 07:11 PM
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Peapod
1985 31' Excella
Dade City
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 126
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Wow. Just wow. What an impressive thread, and get results! Thanks for sharing.
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04-18-2014, 05:37 AM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
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You are very welcome. Sharing is what this site is all about.
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