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Old 08-06-2008, 08:37 PM   #1
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Question Man-made subfloor? No Plywood please....

Has anyone doing a frame up restore opted to use a man-made product instead of plywood for the subfloor? If so, what is the name of the stuff?

I know there is something that comes in 4 x 8 sheets that is stronger than plywood and wont rot...alas, I do not know the name or if it is available to consumers. I know certain industries use it....Please help if you have any insight into an alternative to plywood. Tks, Z.
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I used a product called Nyloboard. They have a website plus I posted on the flooring page the link. It worked really well for me. It is recycled carpeting that looks and feels like plywood. It saws well, hammers well and it does not rot, or give off toxic chemcials. Great stuff. I did my bathoom floor with it. I don't have to worry about rot in that area. It is about $140.00 a sheet.

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Old 08-06-2008, 09:43 PM   #3
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I was about to mention that another poster called "SIU Bound" used nyloboard as well, and then I realized who "Lothlorian" is...
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:45 PM   #4
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Use marine grade plywood. The floor holds the whole trailer together so unless you know for sure the alternative material will hold up to the stress of travel, that the fasteners will not give up their grip with the twisting, you are taking an unnecessary risk. If you want your floor to last a hundred years use penetrating expoxy for a foot around the outside.
Keep in mind that weight issues as well.
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:55 AM   #5
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I toured the factory where they make Nyloboard. I live about 30 minutes from the factory. I accidently stumbled on to the factory when I was running around. They build houses with it. They advertise it for trailers. They even have pictures of it being used. They have all the specifications for it listed. They have plywood and nyloboard comparisons.

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Brian, do you have a link to the "mold" picture. That one was telling.

I'd be delighted to use nyloboard for my upcoming trailer and boat deck replacements if I could get it locally. But delivery charges to Austin make it cost-prohibitive.

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Question Brian: Did you use their 3/4 inch board? Thanks! Z.

Brian: Did you use their 3/4 inch board? Thanks for the referral. Z.


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I used a product called Nyloboard. They have a website plus I posted on the flooring page the link. It worked really well for me. It is recycled carpeting that looks and feels like plywood. It saws well, hammers well and it does not rot, or give off toxic chemcials. Great stuff. I did my bathoom floor with it. I don't have to worry about rot in that area. It is about $140.00 a sheet.

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Im thinking of doing the same for my CCD. I dicovered some floor rot in my 2003. I was shocked to find out that they used particleboard for my floor. Jackson Center made no comment when I had it down there last week...They were willing to charge me six grand to repair(not replace)the floor. I will be using 5/8 recycled manmade plastic plywood for my floor replacement. I understand the stuff is easy to work with. Never will I deal with a floor rot problem like that again. I really like the trailer and plan to keep it.
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Previous people have investigated it and found the nyloboard needed more support than plywood, because it is more flexible. Did you have to add extra support under the nyloboard, and if not do you feel any flexing when walking around on it? I would like to use it (or a similar product) to replace the walls on my horse trailer when I rebuild it.

I went with marine plywood. I figured it was probably better than the stuff it replaced, which lasted the first 40 years. If it lasts another 40 it won't be my problem when it fails - I'll be 80!
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Previous people have investigated it and found the nyloboard needed more support than plywood, because it is more flexible.
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The stiffness of 3/4" fiberglass skinned Nyloboard is comparable to that of standard grade 5/8" plywood. The homogeneous construction of Nyloboard and it's resistance to water related degradation will give it an advantage regarding the comparative stiffness of aged product.

I sure wish the product was in regional distribution.
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Me too, Steve. I would use this not only for my Airstream floor replacement, but also for my boat floor replacement. But I suspect the shipping expense will make it cost-prohibitive for me to even consider.

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Hi guys:

Wow! I have not been on the forum. I took a new teaching job and I am having to learn a whole new way to handle all the administrative work. I is different from my last teaching job. I have been putting 12 hours days in and I have been busy. Sorry I am so late on the reply.

Nyloboard was only used in my bathroom and it worked great. I did not put the piece in one section. I had to cut it in half to make it fit. I was worried about flexibility, but I connected the board with corrigate metal floor connectors. I also used a very thin piece of steel as a butt joint and welded a piece of garage door steel to my stringer to bolt the nyloboard to. After I put the whole thing back together it does not budge one bit. It is a nice feeling not worrying about the bathroom floor rotting. I am happy with it. Yes it is expensive but the peaceful feeling it gives is worth it. It was like working with plywood. It is about $140.00 a board. I only bought one board and picked it up. Here is the link.

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on the 5th page of this link you will see the nyloboard installed. I had a wood butt joint. I replaced it with thin strong steel.

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Hi guys:

Wow! I have not been on the forum. I took a new teaching job and I am having to learn a whole new way to handle all the administrative work. I is different from my last teaching job. I have been putting 12 hours days in and I have been busy. Sorry I am so late on the reply.

Nyloboard was only used in my bathroom and it worked great. I did not put the piece in one section. I had to cut it in half to make it fit. I was worried about flexibility, but I connected the board with corrigate metal floor connectors. I also used a very thin piece of steel as a butt joint and welded a piece of garage door steel to my stringer to bolt the nyloboard to. After I put the whole thing back together it does not budge one bit. It is a nice feeling not worrying about the bathroom floor rotting. I am happy with it. Yes it is expensive but the peaceful feeling it gives is worth it. It was like working with plywood. It is about $140.00 a board. I only bought one board and picked it up. Here is the link.

Nyloboard-Home

on the 5th page of this link you will see the nyloboard installed. I had a wood butt joint. I replaced it with thin strong steel.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...n-38204-5.html


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Hi Brian,

It's really not even that expensive compared to other common substrate materials. You might or might not know, but top-quality Marine Grade Plywood often runs around $125/sheet depending on your location, so the cost of the material itself is comparable to solutions that others are using.

The distribution is the key, because the shipping costs are high.

If they can resolve that issue, I could see it being used almost exclusively as the substrate for RVs, boats, and any other application where you'd like something strong, somewhat flexible, and water-proof.

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