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Old 08-18-2015, 06:48 PM   #15
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I would not pay more than $5k for it. You will easily spend $10k fixing it up.

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If I could get it for $5K and fix it up for $10K I would be the happiest person in the world! It is a Caravanner, which we really have our hearts set on, which is pretty rare and has been very hard to find. It is listed at $12.8K and would cost us $2.5K to ship. You think that is crazy? I would love to get it down to $10k including shipping, but don't know if that is realistic. I am also worried we will easily spend a lot more than $10K fixing it up. If it ends up being $10K I will be fine, but I am really nervous that it will balloon well beyond there, which would be a serious problem for me. What do you think?
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Old 08-18-2015, 06:52 PM   #16
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I would not pay more than $5k for it. You will easily spend $10k fixing it up.

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More like $20K-$30K to fix it up. Like Perry said I would not pay over $5K or $6K to it.
For $12.8K I believe you can do better.
So many issues with this unit, 1st and foremost it is too far away to get real idea of what you are getting into. You can't see it, smell it, poke it or jump on it. Looks like salt damage from many miles on the road or coastal conditions. Either way it doesn't look like it was maintained very well.
If they won't work with you on the price and you can't go out there for an inspection. I would pass. My .02.
I hope it works out for you or you find another Caravanner in better shape. Best of luck to you my friend.

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Old 08-18-2015, 07:42 PM   #17
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More like $20K-$30K to fix it up. Like Perry said I would not pay over $5K or $6K to it.
For $12.8K I believe you can do better.
So many issues with this unit, 1st and foremost it is too far away to get real idea of what you are getting into. You can't see it, smell it, poke it or jump on it. Looks like salt damage from many miles on the road or coastal conditions. Either way it doesn't look like it was maintained very well.
If they won't work with you on the price and you can't go out there for an inspection. I would pass. My .02.
I hope it works out for you or you find another Caravanner in better shape. Best of luck to you my friend.

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Thanks Dennis! I appreciate it!
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Old 08-18-2015, 07:55 PM   #18
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Save your money!!
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Old 08-18-2015, 07:59 PM   #19
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I'd look for something closer to home unless your inspector drops some of the belly pan to really inspect the frame.
Good luck whichever way you decide to go!
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Old 08-18-2015, 09:26 PM   #20
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From experience redoing a 1976, 31' in what appears to be in better condition than this one, I think that you are very low on your estimates for repairs. Axles alone will run you 2.5-3K. Then there are all of the interior items like A/C, fridge, HWT just for starters. Think I would pass on this one!! Unkess 2K would buy it!!! Chris
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Old 08-19-2015, 01:59 PM   #21
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Before hitting the road, you'll want to replace that missing lug nut and/or broken lug stud (can't really tell if it broken or not). I think that should take priority over any rust.

BTW - I wouldn't worry about rust on brake drums. As for the other rust, at least it's not corrosion. There's a huge difference between rust and corrosion.

Go to your local automotive/industrial paint store. There's a rust inhibitor that'll sequester that rust.

Google "rust inhibitor."

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Old 08-19-2015, 02:12 PM   #22
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Thanks everybody! There seems to be unanimous agreement here. I will keep looking.
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Old 08-19-2015, 06:58 PM   #23
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It seems that Airstreams are getting more and more popular and the prices on a junk used one have doubled or tripled. Have you looked at restored ones? The best prices seem to be on the east coast. Also the best time to look is in the winter right after Christmas when folks are trying to pay of credit card debt and pay the heating bill. Spend some time looking at local stuff and educate yourself till prices fall. If I were going to pay over $10k for a trailer it better be camp ready.

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Old 08-19-2015, 08:35 PM   #24
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From experience redoing a 1976, 31' in what appears to be in better condition than this one, I think that you are very low on your estimates for repairs. Axles alone will run you 2.5-3K. Then there are all of the interior items like A/C, fridge, HWT just for starters. Think I would pass on this one!! Unkess 2K would buy it!!! Chris
Where do you guys find these airstream for 2k ? Here in oregon I never see anything in that price range and I scout around a lot
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Old 08-19-2015, 09:15 PM   #25
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By the way the floor seems to be in surprisingly good condition. The only soft spot was right in front of the front door.
Same with mine, I thought. Turned out there were a few more spots around the perimeter. The soft spot in front of the door was where the worst frame rust was, just below it. But, what the heck - I bought it planning on doing a full monty anyway.
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Old 08-20-2015, 11:05 AM   #26
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It seems that Airstreams are getting more and more popular and the prices on a junk used one have doubled or tripled. Have you looked at restored ones? The best prices seem to be on the east coast. Also the best time to look is in the winter right after Christmas when folks are trying to pay of credit card debt and pay the heating bill. Spend some time looking at local stuff and educate yourself till prices fall. If I were going to pay over $10k for a trailer it better be camp ready.

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Yeah, I have been spending quite a bit of time shopping. I think you are right about the prices and around here in Southern CA I think the prices are even higher. Also, I want something so specific and rare that its harder to find one at a good price point. Restored ones are typically outside of my price range, plus i think it would be fun to design the interior. I just really don't want to work on the frame or take the shell off. Thanks for the advice.

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Old 08-20-2015, 11:07 AM   #27
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Where do you guys find these airstream for 2k ? Here in oregon I never see anything in that price range and I scout around a lot
My question as well. I never see anything like that in Southern CA either. Hence, I was looking all the way in Buffalo, NY.
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Old 08-20-2015, 01:06 PM   #28
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The OP trailer in question is DEFINITELY a pass for $12k. From the looks of the bottom, thats a $2k-$3k trailer.

My frame of reference comes from continually checking on whats for sale, asking price vs condition. My personal value guide is:

Stage 1: $1k-$3k for Unused trailer thats been sitting. Smells like "old trailer", old everything and clearly hasnt been used in a while. Some things "work", but most everything needs upgrading or replacing. Trailer likely has rusty frame damage, and floor rot around the perimeter. Double pane windows are surely full of junk. May have the hardware for an awning, but it is likely not functional and if its there, the fabric is in bad condition. Significant amount of work to bring up to being solid. Likely a full monte, shell off restoration candidate.

Stage 2: $5k-$8k for a trailer thats "usable". Although everything is old, and still stinks, everything appears to work. Floors are likely rotten around the perimeter, and frame damage is likely, but not fatal. Double pane windows are probably full of junk. Awning should be there, but possibly has a broken part on it, and fabric condition is old. Axles are likely to be needed. Fresh paint inside, and perhaps some floors could freshen up the place and camping can be had. Problems will likely arise, where the can of worms opens up, and then you're back to Stage 1.

Stage 3: $8k-$12k for a trailer thats still old, but clearly has been kept well. Perhaps even kept under cover. Might not stink as bad, possibly painted with new floors. Some of the double pane windows have issues, and may still have junk in the vista views. Awning is in good working order, but probably old. Everything works as its supposed to, but probably needs axles.

Stage 4: $12k-$20k for a trailer that has been updated and cared for. New axles, new appliances, walls clean or painted, possible new cabinets or countertops, new floors, led lighting. May also be polished. All windows are clean and clear. Vista views have been fixed. Awning is in good working order with new fabric. This is the next best thing to a full monte/ shell off restoration.

Stage 5: $20k-$40k for a trailer that has had full monte/ shell off resto. Everything is new including frame welding (or replacement), subfloor, axles, wheels/ tires/ brakes, cabinetry, flooring, led lighting, plumbing lines, gas lines, fuse box, inverter, water pump, holding tanks & valves, windows all clean and re-tinted, new seals everywhere, bathroom rebuilt or scratch new, polished, new ac & vents, and new awnings all the way around. Quality of materials is average to above average, but not high end. might not be from a particularly skilled craftsmen, but definitely can be obtained by a passionate DIYer who loves projects and takes time to learn to do things right.

Stage 6: $40k-$100k+ for all of Stage 5, but completely custom with high end quality of materials and workmanship by skilled craftsmen.

There..... kinda did that for myself... interested to see if ya'll agree.
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